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The ROCK: Ogren’s MWH Gravity Bias Costing Los Osos Tens of Millions

By Aaron, on June 5th, 2010

UPDATE: Orenco’s Mike Saunders replies to the Coastal Commission. On Thursday, June 10, Mike Saunders of Orenco challenged the California Coastal Commission staff’s last-minute addendum, which echoed the County’s preference for a conventional gravity system and its concerns regarding the STEP collection system. “While we have an obvious interest in this project we have a greater interest in protecting the integrity of our core business,” wrote Saunders in a detailed e-mail to the commissioners and staff on the eve of the Commission’s de novo hearing in Marina del Rey. “While we understand that this is not your direct concern, we do believe that correcting poor information is part of your responsibility in properly administering the California Coastal Act.”

By ED OCHS

Why was the cheaper, environmentally-preferred STEP collection system suddenly dropped from the County’s design-build process for the Los Osos Wastewater Project last year? Why didn’t the only STEP design-build team in the mix appeal that decision? In a fascinating glimpse into Public Works’ dirty little secret war against STEP to promote MWH gravity collection, San Luis Obispo County Supervisor Frank Mecham, occasionally the lone dissenter on the Board of Supervisors when it comes to voting more money for County Public Works to spend on the Los Osos project, has served as middle man in recent behind-the-scenes correspondence from Orenco Systems’ Bill Cagle and County Public Works Director Paavo Ogren. Their comments from this still-smoldering debate reveal some of the back story on Ogren’s STEP vendetta, his vicious disregard for the truth, and the brutal price Los Osos “Prohibition Zone” homeowners and the people of Los Osos will have to pay for it.

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  • Ru4REAL

    If Ochylski is sincere & not just giving “lip service” with his “canned propaganda”, perhaps he’ll read this latest article of THE ROCK & IF he’s elected, make some POSITIVE changes. But, unfortunately, like all the other Supervisors that have “represented ” Los Osos, we will no doubt , AGAIN be treated like step children. I’m still wondering how the County has managed to squander all of the property tax money that we’ve all paid over the years & have seen absolutely nothing in return. As a matter of fact, Meecham, even agreed to give Paavo some additional funds (grudgingly), but said it was with the stipulation that there would be no street maintenence. How about THAT?Speaking of streets, our streets have not been taken care of in years & clearly, that is the responsibility of the County & has nothing to do with the sewer…it’s not a trade off, It’s a safety issue. Maybe when someone has an accident & sues the County, they’ll wake up. If Ochylski is not just saying what he thinks people want to hear, maybe, IF he’s elected, will do what he should have done MUCH sooner & will speak up regarding ousting MWH once & for all. That’s the only way Los Osos will ever have an affordable treatment facilitiy.

  • Ru4REAL

    If Ochylski is sincere & not just giving “lip service” with his “canned propaganda”, perhaps he’ll read this latest article of THE ROCK & IF he’s elected, make some POSITIVE changes. But, unfortunately, like all the other Supervisors that have “represented ” Los Osos, we will no doubt , AGAIN be treated like step children. I’m still wondering how the County has managed to squander all of the property tax money that we’ve all paid over the years & have seen absolutely nothing in return. As a matter of fact, Meecham, even agreed to give Paavo some additional funds (grudgingly), but said it was with the stipulation that there would be no street maintenence. How about THAT?Speaking of streets, our streets have not been taken care of in years & clearly, that is the responsibility of the County & has nothing to do with the sewer…it’s not a trade off, It’s a safety issue. Maybe when someone has an accident & sues the County, they’ll wake up. If Ochylski is not just saying what he thinks people want to hear, maybe, IF he’s elected, will do what he should have done MUCH sooner & will speak up regarding ousting MWH once & for all. That’s the only way Los Osos will ever have an affordable treatment facilitiy.

  • TwoFacesHaveI

    This, from Aaron Oches entitled “Los Osos Animosity:” (April 25, 2010)

    “Over at The Tribune, there are comments ranging from calling former CSD directors Lisa Schicker and Julie Tacker “butt queens” to telling people to “move out” if they can’t move on. These comments pale in comparison to comments made on the SanLuisObispo.com discussion boards from 2006 to 2008 where members such as Wonky1, MoveBy2010 and ReApprazor called for “beating obstructionists with baseball bats and clubs” along with constantly uttering misogynist, bigoted remarks hurled at certain individuals.

    Nobody has ever said, “Hey, wait a minute! This doesn’t solve any problems.” I have not seen any members of Taxpayers Watch step forward in an attempt to curb the vitriolic comments made by supporters. I have not seen any community leaders condeming the innuendo that has divided the community for so many years. I’ve only seen legislative bodies knowingly and unknowingly evoke hostility through limiting public dissent in a public forum.”

    This, from Aaron Ochs entitled “The Hate Stops Here” (May 8, 2010) :

    “Like President Obama’s methodology for creating bipartisan debates, I’ve repeatedly asked for an honest, civil discussion between parties as a means of reframing the discourse — and I’ve provided the medium to make it all happen.”

    This, Aaron Ochs’ latest blog entry:

    “Lynette Tornatzky is like Pinocchio. Instead of her nose getting bigger when she lies, her face gets whiter.”

    Is anyone else as intrigued by Aaron Ochs’ two faces as I am? I could easily post an example each and every day of Ochs riding into town on his white horse seeking civil discourse and chastising all who frolick in the gutter of name calling and personal insults, only to simultaneously frolick in said gutter himself when someone disagrees with him, or he just doesn’t like the person.

    So who are you Aaron? The noble, heroic, peace-maker who sits above the muck, condemning name-calling and personal insults (which interestingly enough are only hurled by “Taxpayer watch” type of individuals it seems), or a name-calling, insulting hypocrite who lacks any sort of journalistic integrity because of the very real inconsistencies in his writings and opinions?

    Either way it’s your blog, and after all, you’re only human Aaron. But really, you should steer clear of the pretentious, holier-than-thou soap box you enjoy standing on when you yourself sling personal insults with gleeful regularity. Just a thought.

    • http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor Aaron

      I was waiting for someone like you to appear.

      I’ve seen the fear-mongering, the misinformation, libel and slander that’s been presented in the sewer debate and I can’t help but to laugh at those who propagate it. Instead of having a discussion about the materials and the issues — a discussion that I’ve always been willing to host and engage in — we see this resurgence of regurgitated talking points that are so factually flawed and exaggerated, that one has to consider who is bringing these points.

      It’s a joke for a joke.

      If you personally have a problem with my comments, then it’s up to you to take the conversation seriously enough to debate the facts with facts instead of listening to yourself talk under the bizarre assumption that you are the unquestioned authority of the subject matter.

      If you want a discussion, lead the way. I’m ready when you are. However, if you’re going to stay within the confines of inflammatory, factually inaccurate diatribes, personal insults and not contribute to a discussion, then don’t expect me — or the community — to roll out the red carpet and bow to you.

      Aside from the distracting nature of your comments, what is your opinion of the article that was posted on The ROCK? I haven’t seen anyone talk about it.

    • Ru4REAL

      In response to TwoFacesHave!
      It might be refreshing if you would stick to the topic at hand, instead of rambling on about something of interest to no one.

  • TwoFacesHaveI

    This, from Aaron Oches entitled “Los Osos Animosity:” (April 25, 2010)

    “Over at The Tribune, there are comments ranging from calling former CSD directors Lisa Schicker and Julie Tacker “butt queens” to telling people to “move out” if they can’t move on. These comments pale in comparison to comments made on the SanLuisObispo.com discussion boards from 2006 to 2008 where members such as Wonky1, MoveBy2010 and ReApprazor called for “beating obstructionists with baseball bats and clubs” along with constantly uttering misogynist, bigoted remarks hurled at certain individuals.

    Nobody has ever said, “Hey, wait a minute! This doesn’t solve any problems.” I have not seen any members of Taxpayers Watch step forward in an attempt to curb the vitriolic comments made by supporters. I have not seen any community leaders condeming the innuendo that has divided the community for so many years. I’ve only seen legislative bodies knowingly and unknowingly evoke hostility through limiting public dissent in a public forum.”

    This, from Aaron Ochs entitled “The Hate Stops Here” (May 8, 2010) :

    “Like President Obama’s methodology for creating bipartisan debates, I’ve repeatedly asked for an honest, civil discussion between parties as a means of reframing the discourse — and I’ve provided the medium to make it all happen.”

    This, Aaron Ochs’ latest blog entry:

    “Lynette Tornatzky is like Pinocchio. Instead of her nose getting bigger when she lies, her face gets whiter.”

    Is anyone else as intrigued by Aaron Ochs’ two faces as I am? I could easily post an example each and every day of Ochs riding into town on his white horse seeking civil discourse and chastising all who frolick in the gutter of name calling and personal insults, only to simultaneously frolick in said gutter himself when someone disagrees with him, or he just doesn’t like the person.

    So who are you Aaron? The noble, heroic, peace-maker who sits above the muck, condemning name-calling and personal insults (which interestingly enough are only hurled by “Taxpayer watch” type of individuals it seems), or a name-calling, insulting hypocrite who lacks any sort of journalistic integrity because of the very real inconsistencies in his writings and opinions?

    Either way it’s your blog, and after all, you’re only human Aaron. But really, you should steer clear of the pretentious, holier-than-thou soap box you enjoy standing on when you yourself sling personal insults with gleeful regularity. Just a thought.

    • http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor Aaron

      I was waiting for someone like you to appear.

      I’ve seen the fear-mongering, the misinformation, libel and slander that’s been presented in the sewer debate and I can’t help but to laugh at those who propagate it. Instead of having a discussion about the materials and the issues — a discussion that I’ve always been willing to host and engage in — we see this resurgence of regurgitated talking points that are so factually flawed and exaggerated, that one has to consider who is bringing these points.

      It’s a joke for a joke.

      If you personally have a problem with my comments, then it’s up to you to take the conversation seriously enough to debate the facts with facts instead of listening to yourself talk under the bizarre assumption that you are the unquestioned authority of the subject matter.

      If you want a discussion, lead the way. I’m ready when you are. However, if you’re going to stay within the confines of inflammatory, factually inaccurate diatribes, personal insults and not contribute to a discussion, then don’t expect me — or the community — to roll out the red carpet and bow to you.

      Aside from the distracting nature of your comments, what is your opinion of the article that was posted on The ROCK? I haven’t seen anyone talk about it.

    • Ru4REAL

      In response to TwoFacesHave!
      It might be refreshing if you would stick to the topic at hand, instead of rambling on about something of interest to no one.

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