Comments on: Short List of Substantial Issues http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/ Sharp Commentary Covering News and Politics Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Aaron http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1011 Aaron Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:05:31 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-1011 Notice how some posts are indented. Those are specific replies to the original replies -- so they're not out of order. Notice how some posts are indented. Those are specific replies to the original replies — so they’re not out of order.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-2000 Aaron Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:05:00 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-2000 Notice how some posts are indented. Those are specific replies to the original replies -- so they're not out of order. Notice how some posts are indented. Those are specific replies to the original replies — so they’re not out of order.

]]> By: Julie http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1010 Julie Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:17:23 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-1010 Aaron, why are the dates comments are made out of order? Aaron, why are the dates comments are made out of order?

]]> By: Julie http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1999 Julie Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:17:00 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-1999 Aaron, why are the dates comments are made out of order? Aaron, why are the dates comments are made out of order?

]]> By: Julie http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1009 Julie Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:15:18 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-1009 Lynette, welcome to the real world. Landuse is politcal. Whether the CCC takes up the issues relative to what they really are verses what they are presented as being, are not necessarily the same thing. The County having Andi Culbertson on their side was a big loser. The "Enviro-Commissioners" are not swayed by this woman, her involvement triggered resistance. Big mistake! The projet has many hoops to hop and hurdles to jump ove before it is a reality. Letters from the "surf" community will backfire, they should have been told Surfrider was in opostion to the project as is, they weren't and felt "important" by writing letters of support for a project that was flawed on its face...too bad the egg is now on thiers. You drawing comparisons to San Diego show how very niave you are. Wake up dear Lynette, the train has left the station. The recent letter from Dan Carl to Mark Hutchinson puts the hearing off for many months. This NOT an easy fix. Lynette, welcome to the real world. Landuse is politcal. Whether the CCC takes up the issues relative to what they really are verses what they are presented as being, are not necessarily the same thing. The County having Andi Culbertson on their side was a big loser. The “Enviro-Commissioners” are not swayed by this woman, her involvement triggered resistance. Big mistake!
The projet has many hoops to hop and hurdles to jump ove before it is a reality.
Letters from the “surf” community will backfire, they should have been told Surfrider was in opostion to the project as is, they weren’t and felt “important” by writing letters of support for a project that was flawed on its face…too bad the egg is now on thiers.
You drawing comparisons to San Diego show how very niave you are.
Wake up dear Lynette, the train has left the station. The recent letter from Dan Carl to Mark Hutchinson puts the hearing off for many months. This NOT an easy fix.

]]> By: Julie http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1998 Julie Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:15:00 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-1998 Lynette, welcome to the real world. Landuse is politcal. Whether the CCC takes up the issues relative to what they really are verses what they are presented as being, are not necessarily the same thing. The County having Andi Culbertson on their side was a big loser. The "Enviro-Commissioners" are not swayed by this woman, her involvement triggered resistance. Big mistake! The projet has many hoops to hop and hurdles to jump ove before it is a reality. Letters from the "surf" community will backfire, they should have been told Surfrider was in opostion to the project as is, they weren't and felt "important" by writing letters of support for a project that was flawed on its face...too bad the egg is now on thiers. You drawing comparisons to San Diego show how very niave you are. Wake up dear Lynette, the train has left the station. The recent letter from Dan Carl to Mark Hutchinson puts the hearing off for many months. This NOT an easy fix. Lynette, welcome to the real world. Landuse is politcal. Whether the CCC takes up the issues relative to what they really are verses what they are presented as being, are not necessarily the same thing. The County having Andi Culbertson on their side was a big loser. The “Enviro-Commissioners” are not swayed by this woman, her involvement triggered resistance. Big mistake!
The projet has many hoops to hop and hurdles to jump ove before it is a reality.
Letters from the “surf” community will backfire, they should have been told Surfrider was in opostion to the project as is, they weren’t and felt “important” by writing letters of support for a project that was flawed on its face…too bad the egg is now on thiers.
You drawing comparisons to San Diego show how very niave you are.
Wake up dear Lynette, the train has left the station. The recent letter from Dan Carl to Mark Hutchinson puts the hearing off for many months. This NOT an easy fix.

]]> By: activisthero http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1008 activisthero Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:35:18 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-1008 The San Diego issue has very little in common with the Los Osos issue. That the Coastal Commission can be 'swayed by outside forces' is misleading. In the case of the Point Loma WWTP and the renewal of their 301h sewage waiver, the only Commissioners 'swayed by outside forces' were those who were appointed by Arnold Schwarzenegger. He sent Mike Crissman down to the meeting in Oceanside to make sure the Arnold appointees changed their vote to 'waiver-yes'. One of those was Katcho, who happens to be running for assembly and sorely needs the support of the waiver-nator. The only other yes votes came from Esther Sanchez, appointed by Karen Bass just recently (the democrats have some history with the SD waiver- Davis forced a second vote too, some years back at the Weston Hotel in LA. At the time, Orange County had just lost their waiver, and the Commission was emboldened. Then Davis ordered a re-vote, just as Arnold has done), and one vore by Steve Kram, who is one of those alternates they send in when they want dirty deeds done dirt cheap. But the Commission made the right call on Los osos. If for no other reason than the Broderson debacle. Thats ESHA, thats a potential mudslide threat to over 100 homes, thats area C where the lower aquifer can be contaminated by endocrine disrupters and who knows what all, and its upstream from the Morro Estuary State Marine reserve, and hell to pay if sewage ran off there or daylights to the SMR!! No, the idea that a failing septic tank leach field in Los Osos would have any comparison to the 170-330 million gallons a day (50 Billion gallons a year!!!!!!!) of primary only treated sewage being dumped directly into the ocean at Point Loma in San Diego is comical- I read it and almost fell out of my tree! :O) www.earthsourcemedia.com The San Diego issue has very little in common with the Los Osos issue. That the Coastal Commission can be ‘swayed by outside forces’ is misleading. In the case of the Point Loma WWTP and the renewal of their 301h sewage waiver, the only Commissioners ‘swayed by outside forces’ were those who were appointed by Arnold Schwarzenegger. He sent Mike Crissman down to the meeting in Oceanside to make sure the Arnold appointees changed their vote to ‘waiver-yes’. One of those was Katcho, who happens to be running for assembly and sorely needs the support of the waiver-nator. The only other yes votes came from Esther Sanchez, appointed by Karen Bass just recently (the democrats have some history with the SD waiver- Davis forced a second vote too, some years back at the Weston Hotel in LA. At the time, Orange County had just lost their waiver, and the Commission was emboldened. Then Davis ordered a re-vote, just as Arnold has done), and one vore by Steve Kram, who is one of those alternates they send in when they want dirty deeds done dirt cheap.

But the Commission made the right call on Los osos. If for no other reason than the Broderson debacle. Thats ESHA, thats a potential mudslide threat to over 100 homes, thats area C where the lower aquifer can be contaminated by endocrine disrupters and who knows what all, and its upstream from the Morro Estuary State Marine reserve, and hell to pay if sewage ran off there or daylights to the SMR!!

No, the idea that a failing septic tank leach field in Los Osos would have any comparison to the 170-330 million gallons a day (50 Billion gallons a year!!!!!!!) of primary only treated sewage being dumped directly into the ocean at Point Loma in San Diego is comical- I read it and almost fell out of my tree! :O)

http://www.earthsourcemedia.com

]]> By: activisthero http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1997 activisthero Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:35:00 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-1997 The San Diego issue has very little in common with the Los Osos issue. That the Coastal Commission can be 'swayed by outside forces' is misleading. In the case of the Point Loma WWTP and the renewal of their 301h sewage waiver, the only Commissioners 'swayed by outside forces' were those who were appointed by Arnold Schwarzenegger. He sent Mike Crissman down to the meeting in Oceanside to make sure the Arnold appointees changed their vote to 'waiver-yes'. One of those was Katcho, who happens to be running for assembly and sorely needs the support of the waiver-nator. The only other yes votes came from Esther Sanchez, appointed by Karen Bass just recently (the democrats have some history with the SD waiver- Davis forced a second vote too, some years back at the Weston Hotel in LA. At the time, Orange County had just lost their waiver, and the Commission was emboldened. Then Davis ordered a re-vote, just as Arnold has done), and one vore by Steve Kram, who is one of those alternates they send in when they want dirty deeds done dirt cheap. But the Commission made the right call on Los osos. If for no other reason than the Broderson debacle. Thats ESHA, thats a potential mudslide threat to over 100 homes, thats area C where the lower aquifer can be contaminated by endocrine disrupters and who knows what all, and its upstream from the Morro Estuary State Marine reserve, and hell to pay if sewage ran off there or daylights to the SMR!! No, the idea that a failing septic tank leach field in Los Osos would have any comparison to the 170-330 million gallons a day (50 Billion gallons a year!!!!!!!) of primary only treated sewage being dumped directly into the ocean at Point Loma in San Diego is comical- I read it and almost fell out of my tree! :O) www.earthsourcemedia.com The San Diego issue has very little in common with the Los Osos issue. That the Coastal Commission can be ‘swayed by outside forces’ is misleading. In the case of the Point Loma WWTP and the renewal of their 301h sewage waiver, the only Commissioners ‘swayed by outside forces’ were those who were appointed by Arnold Schwarzenegger. He sent Mike Crissman down to the meeting in Oceanside to make sure the Arnold appointees changed their vote to ‘waiver-yes’. One of those was Katcho, who happens to be running for assembly and sorely needs the support of the waiver-nator. The only other yes votes came from Esther Sanchez, appointed by Karen Bass just recently (the democrats have some history with the SD waiver- Davis forced a second vote too, some years back at the Weston Hotel in LA. At the time, Orange County had just lost their waiver, and the Commission was emboldened. Then Davis ordered a re-vote, just as Arnold has done), and one vore by Steve Kram, who is one of those alternates they send in when they want dirty deeds done dirt cheap.

But the Commission made the right call on Los osos. If for no other reason than the Broderson debacle. Thats ESHA, thats a potential mudslide threat to over 100 homes, thats area C where the lower aquifer can be contaminated by endocrine disrupters and who knows what all, and its upstream from the Morro Estuary State Marine reserve, and hell to pay if sewage ran off there or daylights to the SMR!!

No, the idea that a failing septic tank leach field in Los Osos would have any comparison to the 170-330 million gallons a day (50 Billion gallons a year!!!!!!!) of primary only treated sewage being dumped directly into the ocean at Point Loma in San Diego is comical- I read it and almost fell out of my tree! :O)

http://www.earthsourcemedia.com

]]> By: Aaron http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-998 Aaron Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:06:16 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-998 I don't know enough about the situation to give a thoughtful answer. I don’t know enough about the situation to give a thoughtful answer.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2010/01/20/short-list-of-substantial-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1996 Aaron Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:06:00 +0000 http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/?p=444#comment-1996 I don't know enough about the situation to give a thoughtful answer. I don’t know enough about the situation to give a thoughtful answer.

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