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		<title>By: Alon Perlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Perlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, A hard rain is going to come. 
[Insert something humorous to break the tension]
It’s still a fairly wide process, but when the current (some essential Add-ons) costs are added up, it&#039;s even worser.  Too bad the EIR was for the wrong project. Also the additional admin work&lt;i&gt;Conditions, cheaper by the hundred and bakers dozen.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, A hard rain is going to come.<br />
[Insert something humorous to break the tension]<br />
It’s still a fairly wide process, but when the current (some essential Add-ons) costs are added up, it&#8217;s even worser.  Too bad the EIR was for the wrong project. Also the additional admin work<i>Conditions, cheaper by the hundred and bakers dozen.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Alon Perlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Perlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, A hard rain is going to come. 
[Insert something humorous to break the tension]
It’s still a fairly wide process, but when the current (some essential Add-ons) costs are added up, it&#039;s even worser.  Too bad the EIR was for the wrong project. Also the additional admin work&lt;i&gt;Conditions, cheaper by the hundred and bakers dozen.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, A hard rain is going to come.<br />
[Insert something humorous to break the tension]<br />
It’s still a fairly wide process, but when the current (some essential Add-ons) costs are added up, it&#8217;s even worser.  Too bad the EIR was for the wrong project. Also the additional admin work<i>Conditions, cheaper by the hundred and bakers dozen.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Barrow is a listed creditor, not for any monies, but because of his earlier association with BWS.  He was told to remove himself, he did not.  That&#039;s Al.
As for any of you poor souls who paid up front, you got a 15% discount as compared to the rest of us poor souls who will be paying for the full 20 years.  (did you know that the LOCSD didn&#039;t pay up front and get the discount?  They didn&#039;t, so we all pay the higher price for those properties that were assessed.)  What we all got for that money is what the County is using towards the new project.  Environmental work, design (gravity), real estate (Broderson, Tri-W and countless pump stations/easements).  These were all costs not elidgible for SRF funds.
No one will be made &quot;whole&quot; only the lawyers will come out unscathed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Barrow is a listed creditor, not for any monies, but because of his earlier association with BWS.  He was told to remove himself, he did not.  That&#8217;s Al.<br />
As for any of you poor souls who paid up front, you got a 15% discount as compared to the rest of us poor souls who will be paying for the full 20 years.  (did you know that the LOCSD didn&#8217;t pay up front and get the discount?  They didn&#8217;t, so we all pay the higher price for those properties that were assessed.)  What we all got for that money is what the County is using towards the new project.  Environmental work, design (gravity), real estate (Broderson, Tri-W and countless pump stations/easements).  These were all costs not elidgible for SRF funds.<br />
No one will be made &#8220;whole&#8221; only the lawyers will come out unscathed.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Barrow is a listed creditor, not for any monies, but because of his earlier association with BWS.  He was told to remove himself, he did not.  That&#039;s Al.
As for any of you poor souls who paid up front, you got a 15% discount as compared to the rest of us poor souls who will be paying for the full 20 years.  (did you know that the LOCSD didn&#039;t pay up front and get the discount?  They didn&#039;t, so we all pay the higher price for those properties that were assessed.)  What we all got for that money is what the County is using towards the new project.  Environmental work, design (gravity), real estate (Broderson, Tri-W and countless pump stations/easements).  These were all costs not elidgible for SRF funds.
No one will be made &quot;whole&quot; only the lawyers will come out unscathed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Barrow is a listed creditor, not for any monies, but because of his earlier association with BWS.  He was told to remove himself, he did not.  That&#8217;s Al.<br />
As for any of you poor souls who paid up front, you got a 15% discount as compared to the rest of us poor souls who will be paying for the full 20 years.  (did you know that the LOCSD didn&#8217;t pay up front and get the discount?  They didn&#8217;t, so we all pay the higher price for those properties that were assessed.)  What we all got for that money is what the County is using towards the new project.  Environmental work, design (gravity), real estate (Broderson, Tri-W and countless pump stations/easements).  These were all costs not elidgible for SRF funds.<br />
No one will be made &#8220;whole&#8221; only the lawyers will come out unscathed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Klump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Klump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alon,
Thanks for the info.  We all know that Al is a &quot;con man&quot; &amp; it&#039;s horrible the way he misleads some of the elderly folks around town.  He has said more than once, that he intends to &quot;inherit&quot; a home here.  Too bad Pat Hedges isn&#039;t at the top of his game any more!  Wonder if they (law enforcement) could get him on a 51-50 hold?  I&#039;d like to see something longer term, however!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alon,<br />
Thanks for the info.  We all know that Al is a &#8220;con man&#8221; &amp; it&#8217;s horrible the way he misleads some of the elderly folks around town.  He has said more than once, that he intends to &#8220;inherit&#8221; a home here.  Too bad Pat Hedges isn&#8217;t at the top of his game any more!  Wonder if they (law enforcement) could get him on a 51-50 hold?  I&#8217;d like to see something longer term, however!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Klump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Klump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alon,
Thanks for the info.  We all know that Al is a &quot;con man&quot; &amp; it&#039;s horrible the way he misleads some of the elderly folks around town.  He has said more than once, that he intends to &quot;inherit&quot; a home here.  Too bad Pat Hedges isn&#039;t at the top of his game any more!  Wonder if they (law enforcement) could get him on a 51-50 hold?  I&#039;d like to see something longer term, however!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alon,<br />
Thanks for the info.  We all know that Al is a &#8220;con man&#8221; &amp; it&#8217;s horrible the way he misleads some of the elderly folks around town.  He has said more than once, that he intends to &#8220;inherit&#8221; a home here.  Too bad Pat Hedges isn&#8217;t at the top of his game any more!  Wonder if they (law enforcement) could get him on a 51-50 hold?  I&#8217;d like to see something longer term, however!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Perlman</title>
		<link>http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2009/11/06/gibson-spends-los-osos-pays-again/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Perlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al has at various times implied that he owns a septic tank and at times admitted to being a renter.
He is still parasiting on Los Osos. Just protecting his Investments
We can rag on Al all day long but what we will get is one of his “Eco-Lites” arguing that he is a saint or that at worst a concerned citizen with an Anger Management problem.
I can do one better. 
I can’t point out to Al’s fake Environmental web-site because it is down.
 “Citizens for Affordable and  Safe Environment” has not been operational except for a brief period in late ’08. http://www.case-environmental.org/
CLIA-Coalition for Low Income Housing”  came back around October ’08. Looks good… “too good”
&lt;I&gt;“In order to address this problem, please consider making a donation to CLIH. We need your help. We accept land deeds, chattel, and capital, all of which will be used in perpetuity for affordable housing in Central California. 
To make a donation, please contact us or email info@clih.net. “&lt;/I&gt;

http://www.clih.net/. There is not a Los Osos Legal Defense Fund website, but the money is coming from somewhere.
Who is vetting?

My evidence that Al gives a hoot, only for the housing of only one “Low income person”, is present in the transcripts of the Board of Supervisors meetings for this month. 
The same place that his soon to be replaced current “Eco Lite” will go to prove the opposite.
I’m setting this as a riddle and a time-stamp.
The meetings are the BOS Nov 3 and Nov 10 meetings, and the CSD’s Nov 9, ‘09 meeting.
During the Nov 3, Board of Supervisors Meeting, General comments the minutes show &lt;I&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mr. Al Barrow:&lt;/b&gt; comments on economic issues, the impacts to affordable housing and the need for transition housing.&lt;/I&gt;
 
So how can I claim that he is Grandstanding, let alone bogus?
Easy, too easy. 
Hint &quot;The measure of a man is in what he does, not in what he says. It&#039;s also a matter of when.&quot; Apparently not a St. Francis Quote

So let someone else do their homework.
&lt;i&gt;“There&#039;s a sucker born every minute”
P.T. Barnum quotes (American circus Entertainer, He created The Greatest Show on Earth (1871). 1810-1891)&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al has at various times implied that he owns a septic tank and at times admitted to being a renter.<br />
He is still parasiting on Los Osos. Just protecting his Investments<br />
We can rag on Al all day long but what we will get is one of his “Eco-Lites” arguing that he is a saint or that at worst a concerned citizen with an Anger Management problem.<br />
I can do one better.<br />
I can’t point out to Al’s fake Environmental web-site because it is down.<br />
 “Citizens for Affordable and  Safe Environment” has not been operational except for a brief period in late ’08. <a href="http://www.case-environmental.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.case-environmental.org/</a><br />
CLIA-Coalition for Low Income Housing”  came back around October ’08. Looks good… “too good”<br />
<i>“In order to address this problem, please consider making a donation to CLIH. We need your help. We accept land deeds, chattel, and capital, all of which will be used in perpetuity for affordable housing in Central California.<br />
To make a donation, please contact us or email <a href="mailto:info@clih.net">info@clih.net</a>. “</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.clih.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.clih.net/</a>. There is not a Los Osos Legal Defense Fund website, but the money is coming from somewhere.<br />
Who is vetting?</p>
<p>My evidence that Al gives a hoot, only for the housing of only one “Low income person”, is present in the transcripts of the Board of Supervisors meetings for this month.<br />
The same place that his soon to be replaced current “Eco Lite” will go to prove the opposite.<br />
I’m setting this as a riddle and a time-stamp.<br />
The meetings are the BOS Nov 3 and Nov 10 meetings, and the CSD’s Nov 9, ‘09 meeting.<br />
During the Nov 3, Board of Supervisors Meeting, General comments the minutes show <i><b>Mr. Al Barrow:</b> comments on economic issues, the impacts to affordable housing and the need for transition housing.</i></p>
<p>So how can I claim that he is Grandstanding, let alone bogus?<br />
Easy, too easy.<br />
Hint &#8220;The measure of a man is in what he does, not in what he says. It&#8217;s also a matter of when.&#8221; Apparently not a St. Francis Quote</p>
<p>So let someone else do their homework.<br />
<i>“There&#8217;s a sucker born every minute”<br />
P.T. Barnum quotes (American circus Entertainer, He created The Greatest Show on Earth (1871). 1810-1891)</i></p>
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		<title>By: Alon Perlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Perlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al has at various times implied that he owns a septic tank and at times admitted to being a renter.
He is still parasiting on Los Osos. Just protecting his Investments
We can rag on Al all day long but what we will get is one of his “Eco-Lites” arguing that he is a saint or that at worst a concerned citizen with an Anger Management problem.
I can do one better. 
I can’t point out to Al’s fake Environmental web-site because it is down.
 “Citizens for Affordable and  Safe Environment” has not been operational except for a brief period in late ’08. http://www.case-environmental.org/
CLIA-Coalition for Low Income Housing”  came back around October ’08. Looks good… “too good”
&lt;I&gt;“In order to address this problem, please consider making a donation to CLIH. We need your help. We accept land deeds, chattel, and capital, all of which will be used in perpetuity for affordable housing in Central California. 
To make a donation, please contact us or email info@clih.net. “&lt;/I&gt;

http://www.clih.net/. There is not a Los Osos Legal Defense Fund website, but the money is coming from somewhere.
Who is vetting?

My evidence that Al gives a hoot, only for the housing of only one “Low income person”, is present in the transcripts of the Board of Supervisors meetings for this month. 
The same place that his soon to be replaced current “Eco Lite” will go to prove the opposite.
I’m setting this as a riddle and a time-stamp.
The meetings are the BOS Nov 3 and Nov 10 meetings, and the CSD’s Nov 9, ‘09 meeting.
During the Nov 3, Board of Supervisors Meeting, General comments the minutes show &lt;I&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mr. Al Barrow:&lt;/b&gt; comments on economic issues, the impacts to affordable housing and the need for transition housing.&lt;/I&gt;
 
So how can I claim that he is Grandstanding, let alone bogus?
Easy, too easy. 
Hint &quot;The measure of a man is in what he does, not in what he says. It&#039;s also a matter of when.&quot; Apparently not a St. Francis Quote

So let someone else do their homework.
&lt;i&gt;“There&#039;s a sucker born every minute”
P.T. Barnum quotes (American circus Entertainer, He created The Greatest Show on Earth (1871). 1810-1891)&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al has at various times implied that he owns a septic tank and at times admitted to being a renter.<br />
He is still parasiting on Los Osos. Just protecting his Investments<br />
We can rag on Al all day long but what we will get is one of his “Eco-Lites” arguing that he is a saint or that at worst a concerned citizen with an Anger Management problem.<br />
I can do one better.<br />
I can’t point out to Al’s fake Environmental web-site because it is down.<br />
 “Citizens for Affordable and  Safe Environment” has not been operational except for a brief period in late ’08. <a href="http://www.case-environmental.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.case-environmental.org/</a><br />
CLIA-Coalition for Low Income Housing”  came back around October ’08. Looks good… “too good”<br />
<i>“In order to address this problem, please consider making a donation to CLIH. We need your help. We accept land deeds, chattel, and capital, all of which will be used in perpetuity for affordable housing in Central California.<br />
To make a donation, please contact us or email <a href="mailto:info@clih.net">info@clih.net</a>. “</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.clih.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.clih.net/</a>. There is not a Los Osos Legal Defense Fund website, but the money is coming from somewhere.<br />
Who is vetting?</p>
<p>My evidence that Al gives a hoot, only for the housing of only one “Low income person”, is present in the transcripts of the Board of Supervisors meetings for this month.<br />
The same place that his soon to be replaced current “Eco Lite” will go to prove the opposite.<br />
I’m setting this as a riddle and a time-stamp.<br />
The meetings are the BOS Nov 3 and Nov 10 meetings, and the CSD’s Nov 9, ‘09 meeting.<br />
During the Nov 3, Board of Supervisors Meeting, General comments the minutes show <i><b>Mr. Al Barrow:</b> comments on economic issues, the impacts to affordable housing and the need for transition housing.</i></p>
<p>So how can I claim that he is Grandstanding, let alone bogus?<br />
Easy, too easy.<br />
Hint &#8220;The measure of a man is in what he does, not in what he says. It&#8217;s also a matter of when.&#8221; Apparently not a St. Francis Quote</p>
<p>So let someone else do their homework.<br />
<i>“There&#8217;s a sucker born every minute”<br />
P.T. Barnum quotes (American circus Entertainer, He created The Greatest Show on Earth (1871). 1810-1891)</i></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Klump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Klump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron &amp; Ed,
This is off topic, but since YOU are so good at &quot;uncovering irregular activities&quot;, maybe you can answer my question...Today, I received paperwork from the bankruptcy court.  I &amp; many others who paid our &quot;assessment&quot; for the now defunct treatment plant &#039;up front&#039; were encouraged to file in an attempt to get some or all of our money back.  I vividly remember being told by Bruce Buell, prior to signing my check for the assessment, that IF IT DID NOT GO THROUGH, WE WOULD GET OUR MONEY BACK. HA!   In going through the papers, I notice that the town&#039;s infamous GRIFTER, Al Barrow, has his &quot;Citizens for affordable safe environment&quot; listed in 3 different places in the documents.....My question:  Why is HE filing?  What is it HE wants returned?  What dollar amount is HE out?  It seems to me that it appears he makes his living off filing law suits where HE clearly HAS NOT been damaged.  I thought this law suit was all about hopefully being made &quot;whole&quot; again.  Since he is NOT a homeowner, what EXACTLY are HIS loses, since HE paid nothing, he&#039;s lost nothing?  Please try to clear this matter up for me.  Thanks lots, fella&#039;s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron &amp; Ed,<br />
This is off topic, but since YOU are so good at &#8220;uncovering irregular activities&#8221;, maybe you can answer my question&#8230;Today, I received paperwork from the bankruptcy court.  I &amp; many others who paid our &#8220;assessment&#8221; for the now defunct treatment plant &#8216;up front&#8217; were encouraged to file in an attempt to get some or all of our money back.  I vividly remember being told by Bruce Buell, prior to signing my check for the assessment, that IF IT DID NOT GO THROUGH, WE WOULD GET OUR MONEY BACK. HA!   In going through the papers, I notice that the town&#8217;s infamous GRIFTER, Al Barrow, has his &#8220;Citizens for affordable safe environment&#8221; listed in 3 different places in the documents&#8230;..My question:  Why is HE filing?  What is it HE wants returned?  What dollar amount is HE out?  It seems to me that it appears he makes his living off filing law suits where HE clearly HAS NOT been damaged.  I thought this law suit was all about hopefully being made &#8220;whole&#8221; again.  Since he is NOT a homeowner, what EXACTLY are HIS loses, since HE paid nothing, he&#8217;s lost nothing?  Please try to clear this matter up for me.  Thanks lots, fella&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Klump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Klump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron &amp; Ed,
This is off topic, but since YOU are so good at &quot;uncovering irregular activities&quot;, maybe you can answer my question...Today, I received paperwork from the bankruptcy court.  I &amp; many others who paid our &quot;assessment&quot; for the now defunct treatment plant &#039;up front&#039; were encouraged to file in an attempt to get some or all of our money back.  I vividly remember being told by Bruce Buell, prior to signing my check for the assessment, that IF IT DID NOT GO THROUGH, WE WOULD GET OUR MONEY BACK. HA!   In going through the papers, I notice that the town&#039;s infamous GRIFTER, Al Barrow, has his &quot;Citizens for affordable safe environment&quot; listed in 3 different places in the documents.....My question:  Why is HE filing?  What is it HE wants returned?  What dollar amount is HE out?  It seems to me that it appears he makes his living off filing law suits where HE clearly HAS NOT been damaged.  I thought this law suit was all about hopefully being made &quot;whole&quot; again.  Since he is NOT a homeowner, what EXACTLY are HIS loses, since HE paid nothing, he&#039;s lost nothing?  Please try to clear this matter up for me.  Thanks lots, fella&#039;s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron &amp; Ed,<br />
This is off topic, but since YOU are so good at &#8220;uncovering irregular activities&#8221;, maybe you can answer my question&#8230;Today, I received paperwork from the bankruptcy court.  I &amp; many others who paid our &#8220;assessment&#8221; for the now defunct treatment plant &#8216;up front&#8217; were encouraged to file in an attempt to get some or all of our money back.  I vividly remember being told by Bruce Buell, prior to signing my check for the assessment, that IF IT DID NOT GO THROUGH, WE WOULD GET OUR MONEY BACK. HA!   In going through the papers, I notice that the town&#8217;s infamous GRIFTER, Al Barrow, has his &#8220;Citizens for affordable safe environment&#8221; listed in 3 different places in the documents&#8230;..My question:  Why is HE filing?  What is it HE wants returned?  What dollar amount is HE out?  It seems to me that it appears he makes his living off filing law suits where HE clearly HAS NOT been damaged.  I thought this law suit was all about hopefully being made &#8220;whole&#8221; again.  Since he is NOT a homeowner, what EXACTLY are HIS loses, since HE paid nothing, he&#8217;s lost nothing?  Please try to clear this matter up for me.  Thanks lots, fella&#8217;s!</p>
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