How to Really Celebrate Los Osos

UPDATE  9:55 PM PST: Pandora Nash-Karner has issued a response:

Fortunately, Los Osos has more than one facet — we’re not just about the sewer issue.

Celebrate Los Osos is dedicated to making a difference, one project at a time, with highly visible projects, engaging volunteers who want to get their hands dirty “doing good work” for the benefit of our unique community.

Genius loci — the Spirit of Place — is the unique, distinctive and cherished aspects of a place — the very reasons we love Los Osos. It is as much in the invisible weave of the people as it is our area’s tangible physical aspects.

The Spirit of Volunteerism and love of place have a long history in Los Osos. Just look and you’ll see the evidence: the Elfin Forest, Sweetsprings, the Bridge Bears, the Community Center, the historical murals, Los Osos Community Park, not to mention the legions of men and women who coach and support youth sports.

Volunteering is the most fundamental act of citizenship and philanthropy in our society. It is offering time, energy and skills to help others and the community we live in. By caring and contributing volunteers make a difference to the quality of life. People work to improve the lives of their neighbors and, in return, enhance their own.

Join us in the celebration of our place.

Celebrate Los Osos is more than just an organization, it has become a movement. It began in January 2008 with the intention of bringing a splintered community together and re-establishing community pride. We are an all-volunteer, community-based, non-profit corporation committed to benefit public spaces in Los Osos and Baywood Park.

We utilize volunteers of all ages and abilities to plant, paint, repair, build, beautify, refurbish, remodel, restore and maintain projects that directly involve and engage community members in order to stimulate community pride, bind us together, and leave a legacy for all to enjoy.

Your blog didn’t mention all the other people involved with Celebrate Los Osos who have not be involved in trying to solve the wastewater issue. Unfortunately you didn’t mention them.

Razor Response: It’s good to note that there are many volunteers — who contribute to “Celebrate Los Osos” — who are not involved with the sewer. Unfortunately, many of the founders, the movers and the shakers of this non-profit organization have created more pressing issues to the community: more substantial, critical issues that landscaping the road median on Los Osos Valley Rd. will not address. The spirit of volunteerism is not prohibited in this article — and to imply that it is shows a lack of understanding. In fact, the article does state that the focal point of the event should be donating money to where it’s needed the most, the residents of the Prohibition Zone.  Planting a tree, clearing brush and building fences will be a moot point if it’s done for a ghost town. There’s no other way to look at it. Contribute to what matters the most. It comes with great sadness to see that Mrs. Nash-Karner does not see the forest for the trees.

UPDATE 6:30 PM PST: A petition is now available for Prohibition Zone residents to sign. The petition is designed to hold the Celebrate Los Osos founders accountable. For more details, click here.

Week after week, a few Los Osos residents speak at public comment during Tuesday’s SLO County Board of Supervisors meeting. No matter what happens in the ever-changing sewer saga, public comment speakers revisit the same themes in the same combative tone. Legendary American boxer Muhammad Ali once said, “It’s the repetition of affirmations that leads to belief. And once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen,” but in the case of Los Osos residents speaking out, nothing happens when repetition is involved.

Getting Your Message Across

After making several landmark, controversial decisions that effectively diminished the County opposition to the wastewater project process, the Board of Supervisors made an existential choice to move on without any afterthoughts or reconsideration. Meanwhile, a small number of residents continue to speak every Tuesday, insisting that the board is not listening to them. If the BOS isn’t listening, why speak?

The best use of podium time would be to educate the audience at home — though only a handful of watchers — on upcoming events that promote your cause. Make your voice heard on your own terms, not Gibson’s, not Sparks’. Unless you’re a public official serving the government, the diplomatic channel of speaking at board meetings is now ineffective. We need to break the habit of speaking to an uncaring brick wall.

In reality, getting the message across doesn’t have to involve speaking on the same topics ad nauseum at the podium.

There needs to be a public investment into community outreach. Creative, aggressive grassroots efforts will persevere over three minutes or less of public comment.

Here are some suggestions to make your message known:

  • Know your audience. Members of the Board of Supervisors were elected by voters. The voters are the ones who decide who stays and who goes in the BOS elections. The voters should be the ones being educated on the process and its flaws, not the board. Secondly, think about the people who will be directly impacted by the Los Osos sewer project: Prohibition Zone homeowners, particularly the elderly on fixed incomes. Not everyone has access to SLO-SPAN and not everyone has access to the Internet — so bring the message to them. Bring the message home whether you leave it at their doorstep or on the TV, at local events or on the radio.
  • Physical effort counts. Stuff envelopes, make calls, staple signs together. Be seen. March the streets. If you’re more digitally inclined, work on graphic/web design, create and present objective, resourceful PowerPoint presentations, submit videos to YouTube, spread your message worldwide to social networks like Facebook, Twitter and MySpace. The truth is that Los Osos needs a lot of people to be heard, individually and collectively. No matter what kind of skills you have, no matter the level of commitment you have to promoting the issues, you will have plenty to do in the areas of your expertise and plenty of opportunities to make things happen. On the don’t side: Eliminate the e-mail pep rallies.
  • Unify, unify, unify! Disposable non-profit organizations that focus on strategic litigation that have a small chance of being successful. It takes leaders working together to build a unifying force with an established presence. It’s a known fact that Los Osos has been subject to political fragmentation and alienation due in part to the abundance of half-cocked non-profits with no clear purpose. It takes leaders to unify and develop a community movement. It takes leaders to show that concerned citizens are not limited to the few public comment speakers. To achieve this unity, we need to go back to basics and learn from the 2005 recall sans the misinformation and petty politics.
  • Demonstrate what people will get for their vote. Use readily available resources — such as composing press releases and leaflets to be distributed at businesses with heavy traffic — to invite wastewater professionals into town for “meet and greet” events. Instead of showing people what Prohibition Zone homeowners and residents could get for joining your mission, show residents what you want them to have, what collection and treatment systems should be part of the County’s design-build process and how those systems would work with our community’s project criteria. Directly confront the County’s reasons for dismissing affordable alternatives (i.e. STEP/STEG easements, vacuum not being able to serve high groundwater areas etc.); have those presentations taped and made available and in every accessible medium from the South Bay Library to YouTube.

The following event can be used to utilize these grassroots suggestions.

Wrong Group Celebrates Los Osos

On October 25, 2009, “Celebrate Los Osos” will meet at Los Osos’ Oktoberfest event.

It’s important to note that members behind “Celebrate Los Osos” — the folks behind the mantra, “Making a difference, one project at a time!” — include several known wastewater politicos including Frank Freiler, Gary and Pandora Nash-Karner, Mimi Kalland, Maria Kelly, Lynette Tornatzky, Leon Van Beurden, Jerry Gregory, Joyce Albright, and the cast of “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.”

On September 25, 2005, organizer Pandora Nash-Karner — yes, the very same person who said in a Tribune article on October 18th, “Good friends were not talking. We’re better than that” — wrote to RWQCB enforcement czar, Roger Briggs, “I hope the CSD gets fined out of existence fast enough to save the contractors and the low-interest loan!” Let’s see. Good friends were not talking. Oh, I know! Maybe they’re not talking because you wanted their taxpayer-funded district — the very same district that Nash-Karner wanted to be established under Measure K in 1998 — to be fined out of existence.

Nash-Karner has come a long way from erecting “honeyhuts” all over town to mending fences.

On September 29, 2005, Jerry Gregory — yes, he’s a member of “Celebrate Los Osos” too — upped the ante. In an e-mail written to Roger Briggs, he wrote, “At Rose Bowker memorial I asked you to fine the Community of Los Osos if the Recall is successful. Well, I am asking you again. Please do this immediately and with the largest fine that is legal for you to do. [...] My honest opinon (sic) is that your fine is large enough to bankrupt the CSD and place all of the services back in the hands of the County.” He probably forgot to add, “I would like to scoop up all the foreclosures with my friend, Leon Van Beurden, and make a huge profit! Those fools won’t know what hit ‘em! Please, please with sugar on top?” Only a few months after he sent that e-mail, without any scientific evidence that their septics were polluting the groundwater, 45 homeowners received Cease and Desist Orders. When 45 homeowners received CDOs, and thousands received NOVs, many lives were deeply affected, emotionally, fincancially, and physically.

Gregory has come a long way from urging homeowners to receive large enforcement fines to planting trees.

Nothing that these two hypocrites — and the rest of the “Nest” — have done for Los Osos is worth celebrating. In fact, they should hang their heads in shame. Instead of posting up a poorly crafted Web site and hosting a booth for this year’s Oktoberfest, they should have a table and a money jar. All of the proceeds should go to the legal defense of homeowners who have been unfairly targeted by these people who couldn’t accept the fact that three of their board members were recalled in a fair election. Instead of landscaping and planting trees on a road median, these individuals should be apologizing profusely for ensuring that widespread community healing would not be possible in their lifetimes.

Nash-Karner said in the Oct 18 article, “We need the entire community to get involved — one project at a time.” Nice try.

On October 25th, I urge all homeowners who were affected by members of “Celebrate Los Osos” to attend Oktoberfest, rise up and denounce their divisiveness and hatred. Denounce the “Dreamer” volunteers without violence, without conflict. I urge everyone to stand together and let the community of Los Osos know who is pretending to make a difference.

Let’s celebrate the fact that in this wonderful country, everyone — even these lovely folks — have the right to express their opinion and assemble even though they’ve done so as a way to suppress dissent from speaking out — one project at a time.

– Aaron Ochs

  • Lynette

    Aaron, show me how getting people stirred up about a collection system will help us now. It didn’t work the first time, so why are you pushing that failed effort once again? Repetition of a failed message is pointless, isn’t it? We all get that, why don’t you?

    Please cite one project that YOU have participated in for the betterment of Los Osos. Have you weeded at the Elfin forest? Have you been a donor to the SBCC? Do you participate in Creek Day? I find it interesting that someone who has done nothing for the betterment of Los Osos has a long list of suggestions for others to try.

    Your idea of healing the community is urging people to, “Denounce the “Dreamer” volunteers without violence, without conflict?” Do you have any idea how nuts that sounds? Try using the word FORGIVE. I have found it a much better way to heal the damage.

  • Lynette

    Aaron, show me how getting people stirred up about a collection system will help us now. It didn’t work the first time, so why are you pushing that failed effort once again? Repetition of a failed message is pointless, isn’t it? We all get that, why don’t you?

    Please cite one project that YOU have participated in for the betterment of Los Osos. Have you weeded at the Elfin forest? Have you been a donor to the SBCC? Do you participate in Creek Day? I find it interesting that someone who has done nothing for the betterment of Los Osos has a long list of suggestions for others to try.

    Your idea of healing the community is urging people to, “Denounce the “Dreamer” volunteers without violence, without conflict?” Do you have any idea how nuts that sounds? Try using the word FORGIVE. I have found it a much better way to heal the damage.

  • Aaron

    I’m going to withhold comment until I get more responses. I’ll moderate for now.

  • Aaron

    I’m going to withhold comment until I get more responses. I’ll moderate for now.

  • Alon Perlman

    Derivitive PR Without planting Oak trees,
    Or Straight PR With planting Oak trees,

    Hmmmm…

    Tough choices.

  • Alon Perlman

    Derivitive PR Without planting Oak trees,
    Or Straight PR With planting Oak trees,

    Hmmmm…

    Tough choices.

  • Karen Hogan

    I have been unable to locate the website where I can make a donation towards the $3,000 needed for the landscape median project on LOVR between Ralphs and Starbucks. Can someone send me a link? Thanks

  • Karen Hogan

    I have been unable to locate the website where I can make a donation towards the $3,000 needed for the landscape median project on LOVR between Ralphs and Starbucks. Can someone send me a link? Thanks

  • Lynette

    Hi Karen!

    Yes, the link is:
    celebratelososos.org

    You will see, contrary to what Aaron says, that it is a very pretty website!

    Stop by the booth if you are at Oktoberfest and say hello!

  • Lynette

    Hi Karen!

    Yes, the link is:
    celebratelososos.org

    You will see, contrary to what Aaron says, that it is a very pretty website!

    Stop by the booth if you are at Oktoberfest and say hello!

  • Lynette

    Aaron, your silly petition looks like you are trying to get US to PAY for the PZLDF bill! Ha-ha-ha-ha! You are kidding – right?

  • Lynette

    Aaron, your silly petition looks like you are trying to get US to PAY for the PZLDF bill! Ha-ha-ha-ha! You are kidding – right?

  • sam spade

    The CDO recipients would not have incurred any legal costs if they had not sued. The majority of them (32 or so) just agreed to hook up to a sewer when available. Done – end of conflict. I’m NOT paying for the rest of the Gail-led pizzle-drippers’ foolish lawsuit.

  • sam spade

    The CDO recipients would not have incurred any legal costs if they had not sued. The majority of them (32 or so) just agreed to hook up to a sewer when available. Done – end of conflict. I’m NOT paying for the rest of the Gail-led pizzle-drippers’ foolish lawsuit.

  • sam spade

    ps – I WILL be visiting the Celebrate Los Osos booth tomorrow, not with a goofy-ass petition, but with a nice big check. I urge others to do the same, if they can.

  • sam spade

    ps – I WILL be visiting the Celebrate Los Osos booth tomorrow, not with a goofy-ass petition, but with a nice big check. I urge others to do the same, if they can.

  • Alon Perlman

    The Remaining CDO’s have been partially released recently, at least from the full damage that having a CDO would have if they now sold their houses.
    This has been discussed on Ann Calhouns Blog previously so I won’t get into it but it is due to Bill Moyland following up on a discovery that the Mortaras were able to sell their house, without the new owners having to be under a continuing CDO and with the Mortaras not having to take the CDO with them.
    Does the fact that current CDO holders have to report to prospective buyers that they are under a CDO, decrease their right to receive full market value on sale-Yes, but not as substantially, as before the State Water Board Lawyer opined this year that title transfer unlinks the CDO from the past owners the future owners and the septic tank itself.
    Was damage done Irretreivably unnecessarily and unjustly to 45 people, by our state Water control boards? Yes

    The interesting Question in my mind is-Did PZLDF under Gail, in the time since this was released (recent past) responsibly communicate to All CDO’s (Or even part) that their legal rights to beneficial use of their property have changed?
    Why should she.?
    They can still be milked. (I talk to in and out of PZLDF CDO’s regularly, and they seemed unaware.)

    Perhaps such a communication exists already, perhaps It will turn up soon, perhaps it has been on the PZLDF Site. (haven’t checked) Perhaps it will appear soon, perhaps it will have an earlier date on it.
    I may check it later.

    SamS, I’ll be around, and all 0ver at Octoberfest (Handsome, long hair, brown touch of gray at the temples, 5′ 9″,180 lb) perhaps If you find my postings reflecting Honesty. You can reveal yourself to me with a wink or by rubbing the left side of your Schnozz.
    I planted (Helped plant)many Oak Trees at Sweet springs. In Elfin Forrest its mostly weed pullin, But I did Spend a Day stabilizing A Creek Erosion long before any election) I was walking back from a tour of TWWW back country and Carrying some road debris to throw in the trash at SBCC when I came across The Celebrate Los Osos Group ( I would have no problem describing it as “Pandora & CO.” if I wanted to be contentious. But why be contentious? is it really “Good for Los Osos”? (Registered trade mark)) They were putting up a fence so I went home brought my tree root Axe and helped them.
    Though they advertised, the next event, I hadn’t paid attention, I joined them to plant Oaks by a similar accidental “Oak planting through” So no, no cash from me, Sam. I donated my precious time, and am always grateful if the organizing groups can supply some food and drink, so thank you.
    Ich Habnicht ein Gelt. No money, hunny

  • Alon Perlman

    The Remaining CDO’s have been partially released recently, at least from the full damage that having a CDO would have if they now sold their houses.
    This has been discussed on Ann Calhouns Blog previously so I won’t get into it but it is due to Bill Moyland following up on a discovery that the Mortaras were able to sell their house, without the new owners having to be under a continuing CDO and with the Mortaras not having to take the CDO with them.
    Does the fact that current CDO holders have to report to prospective buyers that they are under a CDO, decrease their right to receive full market value on sale-Yes, but not as substantially, as before the State Water Board Lawyer opined this year that title transfer unlinks the CDO from the past owners the future owners and the septic tank itself.
    Was damage done Irretreivably unnecessarily and unjustly to 45 people, by our state Water control boards? Yes

    The interesting Question in my mind is-Did PZLDF under Gail, in the time since this was released (recent past) responsibly communicate to All CDO’s (Or even part) that their legal rights to beneficial use of their property have changed?
    Why should she.?
    They can still be milked. (I talk to in and out of PZLDF CDO’s regularly, and they seemed unaware.)

    Perhaps such a communication exists already, perhaps It will turn up soon, perhaps it has been on the PZLDF Site. (haven’t checked) Perhaps it will appear soon, perhaps it will have an earlier date on it.
    I may check it later.

    SamS, I’ll be around, and all 0ver at Octoberfest (Handsome, long hair, brown touch of gray at the temples, 5′ 9″,180 lb) perhaps If you find my postings reflecting Honesty. You can reveal yourself to me with a wink or by rubbing the left side of your Schnozz.
    I planted (Helped plant)many Oak Trees at Sweet springs. In Elfin Forrest its mostly weed pullin, But I did Spend a Day stabilizing A Creek Erosion long before any election) I was walking back from a tour of TWWW back country and Carrying some road debris to throw in the trash at SBCC when I came across The Celebrate Los Osos Group ( I would have no problem describing it as “Pandora & CO.” if I wanted to be contentious. But why be contentious? is it really “Good for Los Osos”? (Registered trade mark)) They were putting up a fence so I went home brought my tree root Axe and helped them.
    Though they advertised, the next event, I hadn’t paid attention, I joined them to plant Oaks by a similar accidental “Oak planting through” So no, no cash from me, Sam. I donated my precious time, and am always grateful if the organizing groups can supply some food and drink, so thank you.
    Ich Habnicht ein Gelt. No money, hunny

  • sam spade

    And thank you, Alon, for donating time. I think that’s great !

  • sam spade

    And thank you, Alon, for donating time. I think that’s great !

  • Lynette

    I’d like to report a big success at the Celebrate Los Osos booth today at Oktoberfest. With one exception, everyone was polite, interested in listening to the latest project, and very generous with both money and volunteer sign-ups. I was at the booth from 1 to 5 and it was a really fun day! A big thanks to the kind and generous people of Los Osos for supporting positive projects in our town!

  • Lynette

    I’d like to report a big success at the Celebrate Los Osos booth today at Oktoberfest. With one exception, everyone was polite, interested in listening to the latest project, and very generous with both money and volunteer sign-ups. I was at the booth from 1 to 5 and it was a really fun day! A big thanks to the kind and generous people of Los Osos for supporting positive projects in our town!

  • sam spade

    Thanks, Lynette, for all that you and your group do. Most of us here just want to live our lives,and help our town out once a while. It’s nice to see a group who wants to make things better. Kudos to Celebrate Los Osos ! And Aaron- you only got 2 real people to sign your petition ? Oops.

  • sam spade

    Thanks, Lynette, for all that you and your group do. Most of us here just want to live our lives,and help our town out once a while. It’s nice to see a group who wants to make things better. Kudos to Celebrate Los Osos ! And Aaron- you only got 2 real people to sign your petition ? Oops.

  • Aaron

    Doesn’t matter to me if two people sign it or if it’s a hundred. I’m just letting the process unfold.

    One thing to be clear about is that the petition urges the founders of Celebrate Los Osos to create their own financial assistance fund for people who can’t afford legal defense and a record-breaking, monthly sewer bill, not as some wishy-washy suggestion to contribute to PZLDF.

    That’s donating to a good cause. That’s giving. That’s volunteering. Pandora wrote, “Volunteering is the most fundamental act of citizenship and philanthropy in our society,” and I agree, but planting trees and clearing shrubs isn’t going to help when most of Los Osos will not be there to appreciate it. Why? Because they will no longer be able to afford the wastewater project and they will have to move out of a town that — I sincerely believe — they would be more than happy to help out in the same spirit as Pandora’s vision of volunteerism.

    Truth be told, Pandora and I just so happen to agree on the importance of volunteerism, but what I’m saying is that the priorities of this organization is remarkably skewed. Help the people first, then plant the trees and build the fences. And what makes matters worse, the people who are saying, “Good friends don’t talk anymore,” were the sole reason why people stopped talking to each other and yes, the sewer is only one asset of Los Osos, but at the same time, people stopped talking to each other because of it. I find that to be obnoxiously and irrefutably hypocritical. Sin, repent and repeat.

  • Aaron

    Doesn’t matter to me if two people sign it or if it’s a hundred. I’m just letting the process unfold.

    One thing to be clear about is that the petition urges the founders of Celebrate Los Osos to create their own financial assistance fund for people who can’t afford legal defense and a record-breaking, monthly sewer bill, not as some wishy-washy suggestion to contribute to PZLDF.

    That’s donating to a good cause. That’s giving. That’s volunteering. Pandora wrote, “Volunteering is the most fundamental act of citizenship and philanthropy in our society,” and I agree, but planting trees and clearing shrubs isn’t going to help when most of Los Osos will not be there to appreciate it. Why? Because they will no longer be able to afford the wastewater project and they will have to move out of a town that — I sincerely believe — they would be more than happy to help out in the same spirit as Pandora’s vision of volunteerism.

    Truth be told, Pandora and I just so happen to agree on the importance of volunteerism, but what I’m saying is that the priorities of this organization is remarkably skewed. Help the people first, then plant the trees and build the fences. And what makes matters worse, the people who are saying, “Good friends don’t talk anymore,” were the sole reason why people stopped talking to each other and yes, the sewer is only one asset of Los Osos, but at the same time, people stopped talking to each other because of it. I find that to be obnoxiously and irrefutably hypocritical. Sin, repent and repeat.

  • Lynette

    Thank you Sam Spade – I am a “newby” to the group so will pass the credit on to Pandora and her original volunteers. I sure had a great time today spreading the word about what is going on with the median project, it was so fun to be involved! I won’t mention the names that deserve credit to protect them from the nasty attacks here, but you know who you are and I thank you.

    Aaron, just because people donate money for some plants now, it does not mean that there will be no money later to help people in need. Some people do not understand that planting the trees and building fences DOES help people. It gets people engaged in working together toward an achievable and visible goal. I believe we become more invested in helping and that feeling really spreads out and grows from doing projects like these. We live in a truly great place and showing people that we care about it and that we wish to make it beautiful, is a good first step to rebuild what has been lost. We shouldn’t have to wait for a sewer to begin making a difference.

  • Lynette

    Thank you Sam Spade – I am a “newby” to the group so will pass the credit on to Pandora and her original volunteers. I sure had a great time today spreading the word about what is going on with the median project, it was so fun to be involved! I won’t mention the names that deserve credit to protect them from the nasty attacks here, but you know who you are and I thank you.

    Aaron, just because people donate money for some plants now, it does not mean that there will be no money later to help people in need. Some people do not understand that planting the trees and building fences DOES help people. It gets people engaged in working together toward an achievable and visible goal. I believe we become more invested in helping and that feeling really spreads out and grows from doing projects like these. We live in a truly great place and showing people that we care about it and that we wish to make it beautiful, is a good first step to rebuild what has been lost. We shouldn’t have to wait for a sewer to begin making a difference.

  • Lisa Klump

    Lynette, I agree, let’s help beautify the community by getting CODE ENFORCEMENT involved to remove all the junkers, rv’s, motor homes & boats that are parked in MANY driveways creating a horrible blight. If they cleaned up the DuVall property (and he’s OUT of TOWN), they can certainly do the same thing HERE. If these folks want junkers, rv’s, motor homes & boats, they NEED to RENT a storage facility for them or move to a place that has “proper RV ACCESS”. Now THAT would beautify Los Osos! Plus, it would remove some derilicts who “live” in these rv’s & motor homes.

  • http://beeooch@charter.net Lisa Klump

    Lynette, I agree, let’s help beautify the community by getting CODE ENFORCEMENT involved to remove all the junkers, rv’s, motor homes & boats that are parked in MANY driveways creating a horrible blight. If they cleaned up the DuVall property (and he’s OUT of TOWN), they can certainly do the same thing HERE. If these folks want junkers, rv’s, motor homes & boats, they NEED to RENT a storage facility for them or move to a place that has “proper RV ACCESS”. Now THAT would beautify Los Osos! Plus, it would remove some derilicts who “live” in these rv’s & motor homes.

  • Aaron

    Lynette,

    If you read very carefully, I wasn’t saying that making aesthetic changes doesn’t help people. It does, but the point I was making was: how does donating to cash-strapped homeowners in the Prohibition Zone not help people? Isn’t that one way of showing people that you care about Los Osos? And who said the sewer should be built first before contributing? Start now. That’s what that “silly petition” is requesting.

    Do you understand what I’m saying or am I talking to a brick wall?

  • Aaron

    Lynette,

    If you read very carefully, I wasn’t saying that making aesthetic changes doesn’t help people. It does, but the point I was making was: how does donating to cash-strapped homeowners in the Prohibition Zone not help people? Isn’t that one way of showing people that you care about Los Osos? And who said the sewer should be built first before contributing? Start now. That’s what that “silly petition” is requesting.

    Do you understand what I’m saying or am I talking to a brick wall?

  • Alon Perlman

    Mz. Clumop, You are in Error when you say “Plus, it would remove some derilicts” Getting rid of RV’s Occupied or otherwise will not get rid of Mr. Al “Low Income Housing” Barrow, he rents in a duplex, is on 100% government disability and is sufficiently functional, to receive assistance from the little old ladies into whose living rooms, he would (and still is barging) “Look thet’s me on TV, The waterboard is going to take your house away, Give me 200 Dollars”. He just Hired a lawyer, didn’t he? Quit a life of luxery. Where is the money coming from if not from the pocket’s of Los Ossan’s Misguided Poor and a few Ego deprived rich, he also has received thousands of dollars from his “ECO”-Lites, who could had given those monies to a true Charity. Either the low income fund or the True Los Osos Charities that are cheated. (Pety Johnson, Richard Margotsen, Jerry Walsh Others, (And, unfortunately, during election season- a Couple more tack on) Collect for the Maxine Lewis Shelter, They spend a lot of real time helping others, walking the walk, Actually lifting heavy boxes, not talking the talk, (except that during the the fund raisers- Coming up ! Listem to them! Help them and the legitimate year around volunteers). There are a few Hard Working Individuals in Los Osos whose circumstances have them, in trailers. Some did and do a lot more volunteering then you do , prattling L.K. and your brood, You are not a better person then they, Miizz Lisa ” Lets beautify Los Osos, by getting rid of the Rif Raff” Klempft.
    This communication may be reproduced in whole only, feal free .
    “Lisa”- Awaken!!! you were a decent (and beautifully loony) person once. Don’t do the devil’s work for her or him.
    In every season Spin, Spin, Spin.
    The Byrds

  • Alon Perlman

    Mz. Clumop, You are in Error when you say “Plus, it would remove some derilicts” Getting rid of RV’s Occupied or otherwise will not get rid of Mr. Al “Low Income Housing” Barrow, he rents in a duplex, is on 100% government disability and is sufficiently functional, to receive assistance from the little old ladies into whose living rooms, he would (and still is barging) “Look thet’s me on TV, The waterboard is going to take your house away, Give me 200 Dollars”. He just Hired a lawyer, didn’t he? Quit a life of luxery. Where is the money coming from if not from the pocket’s of Los Ossan’s Misguided Poor and a few Ego deprived rich, he also has received thousands of dollars from his “ECO”-Lites, who could had given those monies to a true Charity. Either the low income fund or the True Los Osos Charities that are cheated. (Pety Johnson, Richard Margotsen, Jerry Walsh Others, (And, unfortunately, during election season- a Couple more tack on) Collect for the Maxine Lewis Shelter, They spend a lot of real time helping others, walking the walk, Actually lifting heavy boxes, not talking the talk, (except that during the the fund raisers- Coming up ! Listem to them! Help them and the legitimate year around volunteers). There are a few Hard Working Individuals in Los Osos whose circumstances have them, in trailers. Some did and do a lot more volunteering then you do , prattling L.K. and your brood, You are not a better person then they, Miizz Lisa ” Lets beautify Los Osos, by getting rid of the Rif Raff” Klempft.
    This communication may be reproduced in whole only, feal free .
    “Lisa”- Awaken!!! you were a decent (and beautifully loony) person once. Don’t do the devil’s work for her or him.
    In every season Spin, Spin, Spin.
    The Byrds

  • Lynette

    Alon, you are insightful and truthful. Thank you!

  • Lynette

    Alon, you are insightful and truthful. Thank you!

  • Lisa Klump

    Alon,
    Just to set the record straight, I do alot of volunteer work, but how would you know, since we obviously do not travel in the same circles. Everything you say about Al is true, he is an “opportunist” & a “con man”. I would NEVER donate to “any of his causes”, because he’s just way too shifty. He’s another reason that Los Osos has lost so much credability. I really can’t say who’s done the most damage to the community, Al or Gail. I’ll let you call THAT one. They have BOTH done a con job on Los Osos. BTW, check Megans Law, we do have a number of perv’s & derelicts around here & surprise, surprise! some are living in Rv’s & travel trailers. You obviously don’t have children or you would be more concerned.

  • http://beeooch@charter.net Lisa Klump

    Alon,
    Just to set the record straight, I do alot of volunteer work, but how would you know, since we obviously do not travel in the same circles. Everything you say about Al is true, he is an “opportunist” & a “con man”. I would NEVER donate to “any of his causes”, because he’s just way too shifty. He’s another reason that Los Osos has lost so much credability. I really can’t say who’s done the most damage to the community, Al or Gail. I’ll let you call THAT one. They have BOTH done a con job on Los Osos. BTW, check Megans Law, we do have a number of perv’s & derelicts around here & surprise, surprise! some are living in Rv’s & travel trailers. You obviously don’t have children or you would be more concerned.

  • Alon Perlman

    You are all my children Lisa, and I love you all equally.

  • Alon Perlman

    You are all my children Lisa, and I love you all equally.

  • sam spade

    Oh, good grief – Lisa Clump sounds like Beeyotch, sounds like 4F, etc . None of them realize that “a lot” is two words,
    Your’re funny, Alon, which is why I keep reading you, even though you’re hard to understand.( Invest in an English language program course, asap)

  • sam spade

    Oh, good grief – Lisa Clump sounds like Beeyotch, sounds like 4F, etc . None of them realize that “a lot” is two words,
    Your’re funny, Alon, which is why I keep reading you, even though you’re hard to understand.( Invest in an English language program course, asap)