Shamelessly Irresponsible

EDIT (4:52 PM PST): Today, Bob Cuddy wrote an article on news that’s not exactly breaking. It’s not the article that amuses me (But the “Los Osso” typo? Well done, Cuddy!) so much as the comments made by the anonymous. If any of them want to elaborate on their — in my opinion — wacky statements, they are more than welcome to on the blog or if they want to speak to be privately, they are more than welcome to send me an e-mail.

Last Monday, I checked the SLO County Web site at the section that stored all the Los Osos project updates and documents. For the entire day, I checked and there was no report from County Counsel regarding the formal complaint filed by former CSD board member Lisa Schicker. The complaint was sent to the County more than a month ago.

County Counsel Warren Jensen has already verbally denied the allegations in a series of e-mails to Schicker. Only a week into reviewing the complaint, weeks before Jensen said the report was going to be due, Supervisor Bruce Gibson had already decried it.

Supporters of the County has hailed the leaders of the process as moral arbiters without taking into consideration the lack of consistency between the County’s words and actions.

There are a few strains of arguments provided by the County — none of them seem to be thoughtful or give benefit of the doubt.

1. Backdating contracts happen all the time. Who cares?
When a former interim GM for the Los Osos Community Services District, an unauthorized, temporary employee, orders Buel to backdate a 1999 contract with a contractor that’s now on the short-list for both collection and treatment 10 years later, that is where reasonable suspicion is raised. When the District Attorney‘s Office of San Luis Obispo stated that the backdating was a felony, that’s when the whole “Who cares?” tone is completely thrown out the window, especially when the contracts were illegally signed by Bruce Buel. First there was the motive and then the commitment to act on that motive, which makes the case against Mr. Ogren more plausible.

The act of backdating contracts, in this case, is in violation of California Penal Code § 424 and Government Code § 6200 (falsifying public records) as cited in the May 8, 2006 letter to Senior Deputy District Attorney Steve Brown.

2. Investigating the complaint is unnecessary because it unfairly utilizes dwindling County resources. Therefore, it’s counterproductive to the process.
Last month, County Counsel Warren Jensen stated that he would fulfill his obligation as counsel to investigate the complaint and release the findings in a timely manner. The investigation was part of a legitimate process and the complaint is highly relevant to the process. Montgomery Watson Harza, which is now once again in the spotlight, has been deeply involved throughout the history of the Los Osos wastewater project.

Not only does this not hurt the process, it strengthens the process and encourages the County to look at all the bidders that are new to the Los Osos playing field. Granted, the County addressed MWH’s qualifications in light of the accusations brought forth in the formal complaint, but the problem is that MWH has dominated the conversation. What ever happened to the competition? Why should they compete with a contractor who has — for at least five years — had such deep involvement with the town and its politics?

It is crucial to utilize County resources in order to ensure fairness of competition.

3. Lisa Schicker has a clear agenda to delay and undermine the process. She is merely trying to compensate for her shortcomings when she was on the LOCSD.
As part of her fiduciary duty and legal obligation to district taxpayers she served as an elected official (by an overwhelming majority), Lisa Schicker first reported the incident(s) to law enforcement almost a year before the recall. Following the recall and before the bankruptcy, a resolution was passed for the board to send information regarding the backdated contracts to the Attorney General and the District Attorney in 2006.

Due to MWH appearing prominently on the short-list combined with the contractor’s pending litigation with the district — which, only if settled, would qualify them for the RFP — there was a clear incentive to file a formal complaint. Prior to the formal complaint, the County did not investigate the matter. Maybe not in the court of law, but for speculative purposes, one could argue that the County had knowledge of such information, since analyzing the past wastewater projects was part of the process. For the County not to pick up on this abnormality attests to their level of competence… or complicity.

There is foul play afoot here — and perhaps a grand jury investigation would uncover more information than the County’s own less than objective, internal review of themselves.

  • Watershed Mark

    Aaron wrote: For the County not to pick up on this abnormality attests to their level of competence… or complicity.Perhaps Jensen's "opinion" will help straughten things out…At least he is taking his time.It is getting down to the nitty gritty.

  • Watershed Mark

    Perhaps Jensen's "opinion" will help straighten things out…

  • Watershed Mark

    Aaron wrote: For the County not to pick up on this abnormality attests to their level of competence… or complicity.

    Perhaps Jensen's "opinion" will help straughten things out…
    At least he is taking his time.
    It is getting down to the nitty gritty.

  • Watershed Mark

    Perhaps Jensen's "opinion" will help straighten things out…

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Aaron. Lisa is one of many good people in this town that have been vilified by a small minority for a truth that could jeopardize the "plan". This "win at all costs" marketing campaign continues, energized by greed and ego. If this group could let go of the ego (and the my way or the highway attitude), and come to the table with other very knowledgeable concerned citizens of differing views (not backroom meetings with Paavo & Brucie), we just might be able to save our aquifer from SWI.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Aaron. Lisa is one of many good people in this town that have been vilified by a small minority for a truth that could jeopardize the "plan". This "win at all costs" marketing campaign continues, energized by greed and ego.

    If this group could let go of the ego (and the my way or the highway attitude), and come to the table with other very knowledgeable concerned citizens of differing views (not backroom meetings with Paavo & Brucie), we just might be able to save our aquifer from SWI.

  • Anonymous

    I'm curious Aaron, what do you find so hilarious about the comments? Is it their veracity? Is it their grammar, or the writing style? Or is it just that you disagree with what they are saying? I found a lot of good stuff there. And surely nothing more wacky as "David Edge was fired because he lives in Los Osos," or many other flights of fancy conspsriacy theories many (yourself included) love to promote.You should be more respectful to contrary opinions Aaron, instead of dismissing them as "wacky" or "hilarious." Whether you like it or not, there are many, many in Los Osos who do not agree with Lisa Schicker's actions. Or you for that matter. Kumbaya.

  • Anonymous

    I'm curious Aaron, what do you find so hilarious about the comments? Is it their veracity? Is it their grammar, or the writing style? Or is it just that you disagree with what they are saying? I found a lot of good stuff there. And surely nothing more wacky as "David Edge was fired because he lives in Los Osos," or many other flights of fancy conspsriacy theories many (yourself included) love to promote.

    You should be more respectful to contrary opinions Aaron, instead of dismissing them as "wacky" or "hilarious." Whether you like it or not, there are many, many in Los Osos who do not agree with Lisa Schicker's actions. Or you for that matter. Kumbaya.

  • Aaron

    Naturally, how much "good stuff" can one really say with a limited amount of characters, no links or citations? I appreciate dissenting opinion but I also have my opinion to call some of that opinion wacky — because they are.Let's give an example. You just said that I "love to promote" conspiracy theories. You don't identify those conspiracy theories. You don't have any additional information to say otherwise.I've seen a lot of people say, "Lisa Schicker has done a lot of damage to the CSD!" but while that's an opinion, that isn't the issue being discussed in the article. I haven't seen any posts focusing on the information provided in the documents.The discussions mainly show an overwhelming disgust toward Mrs. Schicker and I believe that disgust, that angst is clearly misplaced. Nobody is stopping you from passing judgment based on her character, but if all you're going to do is base your arguments on finger-pointing without looking at the information presented, then your opinion is wacky.

  • Aaron

    Naturally, how much "good stuff" can one really say with a limited amount of characters, no links or citations? I appreciate dissenting opinion but I also have my opinion to call some of that opinion wacky — because they are.

    Let's give an example. You just said that I "love to promote" conspiracy theories. You don't identify those conspiracy theories. You don't have any additional information to say otherwise.

    I've seen a lot of people say, "Lisa Schicker has done a lot of damage to the CSD!" but while that's an opinion, that isn't the issue being discussed in the article. I haven't seen any posts focusing on the information provided in the documents.

    The discussions mainly show an overwhelming disgust toward Mrs. Schicker and I believe that disgust, that angst is clearly misplaced. Nobody is stopping you from passing judgment based on her character, but if all you're going to do is base your arguments on finger-pointing without looking at the information presented, then your opinion is wacky.

  • Anonymous

    When a presenter is not credible in the past, why is she credible this time? Especially when her evidence as presented is a mess and full of newspaper citations that the Supes discount anyway.

  • Anonymous

    When a presenter is not credible in the past, why is she credible this time? Especially when her evidence as presented is a mess and full of newspaper citations that the Supes discount anyway.

  • Aaron

    There are some problems in your logic, Anonymous:1. You did not point to instances where Mrs. Schicker's credibility was lacking.2. The complaint is not based on her personal opinion, which is a by-product of her credibility.3. Mrs. Schicker's evidence is not "full of newspaper citations" all. You didn't read the complaint, did you? Most of the documents were correspondence between the district and legal authorities documenting the actions in question and the actions taken after discovery.

  • Aaron

    There are some problems in your logic, Anonymous:

    1. You did not point to instances where Mrs. Schicker's credibility was lacking.

    2. The complaint is not based on her personal opinion, which is a by-product of her credibility.

    3. Mrs. Schicker's evidence is not "full of newspaper citations" all. You didn't read the complaint, did you? Most of the documents were correspondence between the district and legal authorities documenting the actions in question and the actions taken after discovery.

  • Anonymous

    How about – "$100 out of town," which was followed by "We had no plan."That complaint is based on her personal opinion. Had that complaint any merit, the CSD under Schicker's rule would have filed a lawsuit. I wonder if an attorney was consulted this time? Clearly not BWS.

  • Anonymous

    How about – "$100 out of town," which was followed by "We had no plan."

    That complaint is based on her personal opinion. Had that complaint any merit, the CSD under Schicker's rule would have filed a lawsuit.

    I wonder if an attorney was consulted this time? Clearly not BWS.

  • Aaron

    Wrong again.1. "$100 out of town" was a claim supported by Measure B supporters. That claim was invented by Al Barrow. Lisa Schicker did not actively stand by that claim.2. The complaint is not based on her personal opinion. See #3 of my previous comments.3. In 2004, Lisa Schicker reported the illegal backdating to the proper authorities and went through the necessary channels (police –> DA –> AG) so that the district wouldn't have to file legal action off the bat.According to Jon Seitz, the furthest the board ever went was to file a counter-complaint to Montgomery Watson Harza (MWH) v. LOCSD, Case No. CV060122 (San Luis Obispo Superior Court). The case is still pending. The lawsuit was filed in the middle of the district's own investigation.It wouldn't be possible to file an independent lawsuit against a party that's already suing you.

  • Aaron

    Wrong again.

    1. "$100 out of town" was a claim supported by Measure B supporters. That claim was invented by Al Barrow. Lisa Schicker did not actively stand by that claim.

    2. The complaint is not based on her personal opinion. See #3 of my previous comments.

    3. In 2004, Lisa Schicker reported the illegal backdating to the proper authorities and went through the necessary channels (police –> DA –> AG) so that the district wouldn't have to file legal action off the bat.

    According to Jon Seitz, the furthest the board ever went was to file a counter-complaint to Montgomery Watson Harza (MWH) v. LOCSD, Case No. CV060122 (San Luis Obispo Superior Court). The case is still pending. The lawsuit was filed in the middle of the district's own investigation.

    It wouldn't be possible to file an independent lawsuit against a party that's already suing you.

  • Richard LeGros

    Hi Aaron,1. While Lisa may not have directly advocated the $100/month 'plan' as supported by Measure B advocates, she did not openly oppose it either. As we all understand she knew that the 'plan' did not exist (which she stated, while under oath, at the WB hearings in December 2005), why did she not, as a seated LOCSD board member obligated to protect the public’s interests, inform the public that the 'plan' and the 'monthly cost of that plan' as others advocated was a lie? You can't have it both ways….her silence was deafening and damning.2. As for Ms. Schicker's 'honesty', you should read her Declaration that she filed with the Superior Court regarding the TW lawsuit. In that Declaration she (along with the Declarations of Keith Swanson and Gail McPherson) undeniably lied when she/they submitted perjurous statements to the Court as to her relationship to the CCLO. In fact, the lies were so blatant that they all later submitted subsequent amended Declarations in an attempt to undo their lies.I will gladly provide their Declarations and other related documents for your review. 3. Regarding the documentation that Lisa supplied with her complaint, the majority of them are hearsay newspaper articles; and as such has absolutely no merit in legal complaints or validity in judicial proceedings. The spattering of law that she provides is not relevant to the alleged actions either.Further, while she has included the complaints that the LOCSD filed with the DA, the US EPA, the AG, and the Society of Engineers, she has conveniently omitted the official RESPONSES of those organizations (sent to the LOCSD) outlining why the LOCSD complaints have no merit. This is a damning oversight on her part as she should have submitted ALL documentation that completes the record.4. Lisa, when she the LOCSD board president, DID have ample opportunity to file a CIVIL lawsuit on her/the LOCSD’s claims regarding MDW. She then had the power and money to do so; yet failed to move the complaint forward in late 2005, early 2006; and long before the MDW vs. LOCSD lawsuit and the later bankruptcy of the LOCSD.Now I could opine as to Ms. Schicker’s motivation(s), but why bother? The County clearly sees her complaint as baseless politicking to obstruct the WWTP process. Other agencies no doubt concur.Regards, R

  • Richard LeGros

    Hi Aaron,

    1. While Lisa may not have directly advocated the $100/month 'plan' as supported by Measure B advocates, she did not openly oppose it either.
    As we all understand she knew that the 'plan' did not exist (which she stated, while under oath, at the WB hearings in December 2005), why did she not, as a seated LOCSD board member obligated to protect the public’s interests, inform the public that the 'plan' and the 'monthly cost of that plan' as others advocated was a lie? You can't have it both ways….her silence was deafening and damning.

    2. As for Ms. Schicker's 'honesty', you should read her Declaration that she filed with the Superior Court regarding the TW lawsuit. In that Declaration she (along with the Declarations of Keith Swanson and Gail McPherson) undeniably lied when she/they submitted perjurous statements to the Court as to her relationship to the CCLO. In fact, the lies were so blatant that they all later submitted subsequent amended Declarations in an attempt to undo their lies.
    I will gladly provide their Declarations and other related documents for your review.

    3. Regarding the documentation that Lisa supplied with her complaint, the majority of them are hearsay newspaper articles; and as such has absolutely no merit in legal complaints or validity in judicial proceedings.
    The spattering of law that she provides is not relevant to the alleged actions either.
    Further, while she has included the complaints that the LOCSD filed with the DA, the US EPA, the AG, and the Society of Engineers, she has conveniently omitted the official RESPONSES of those organizations (sent to the LOCSD) outlining why the LOCSD complaints have no merit. This is a damning oversight on her part as she should have submitted ALL documentation that completes the record.

    4. Lisa, when she the LOCSD board president, DID have ample opportunity to file a CIVIL lawsuit on her/the LOCSD’s claims regarding MDW. She then had the power and money to do so; yet failed to move the complaint forward in late 2005, early 2006; and long before the MDW vs. LOCSD lawsuit and the later bankruptcy of the LOCSD.

    Now I could opine as to Ms. Schicker’s motivation(s), but why bother? The County clearly sees her complaint as baseless politicking to obstruct the WWTP process. Other agencies no doubt concur.

    Regards, R

  • Aaron

    Alon,Instead of baiting and belittling, people like Mr. LeGros post thoughtful, informative comments. LeGros is a shining example of what I'd like to see more.I'm currently analyzing Richard's comments.

  • Aaron

    Alon,

    Instead of baiting and belittling, people like Mr. LeGros post thoughtful, informative comments. LeGros is a shining example of what I'd like to see more.

    I'm currently analyzing Richard's comments.

  • Richard LeGros

    Hi Aaron,It is nice to know some think I 'shine' when others just 'shine me on'. LOLRegarding your analysis; feel free to come by to acquire the documents refered to in my previous post. Or I can Email them to you. Your choice.-Richard LeGros

  • Richard LeGros

    Hi Aaron,

    It is nice to know some think I 'shine' when others just 'shine me on'. LOL

    Regarding your analysis; feel free to come by to acquire the documents refered to in my previous post. Or I can Email them to you. Your choice.

    -Richard LeGros

  • Anonymous

    OK Aaron. Will you take Richard up on his offer? Perhaps find out some things you don't want to know?Do you think Lisa was purposefully trying to hide the responses to her allegations by omitting the response documents from the DA, the US EPA, the AG, and the Society of Engineers? Or she didn't have copies of them to include in her packet – or she just forgot about them?Why do you think she did that?

  • Anonymous

    OK Aaron. Will you take Richard up on his offer? Perhaps find out some things you don't want to know?

    Do you think Lisa was purposefully trying to hide the responses to her allegations by omitting the response documents from the DA, the US EPA, the AG, and the Society of Engineers? Or she didn't have copies of them to include in her packet – or she just forgot about them?

    Why do you think she did that?

  • Aaron

    Anonymous,Yes, I have taken Richard up on his offer and I'm reading the documents.It's not an issue of what I want to know or don't know. The truth is the truth. Facts are the facts. I'm looking at the information, but I'm also working on setting up a new blog. Things take time.Thank you Richard for the documents.

  • Aaron

    Anonymous,

    Yes, I have taken Richard up on his offer and I'm reading the documents.

    It's not an issue of what I want to know or don't know. The truth is the truth. Facts are the facts. I'm looking at the information, but I'm also working on setting up a new blog. Things take time.

    Thank you Richard for the documents.

  • Alon Perlman

    Aaron, before you read the missing documents from Lisa’s complaint, don’t you think you should read the complaint and attachments first?

  • Alon Perlman

    Aaron, before you read the missing documents from Lisa’s complaint, don’t you think you should read the complaint and attachments first?

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  • PUBLISHER

    “Ignoranc is curable: Stupidity, terminal.”

    It’s beyond boring reading paper-tiger defenses and off-the-subject comments from the usual Hug-A-Turd gang whenever they attempt to defend a fraudulant position or protect one of their own.

    LeGros is a real pip: defrauding anyone lately, Richard? I’m referring to your fraudulant Paso Robles Real Estate deal when you deliberately did not inform the Buyers of the water main and street improvemnts that would be required before any buiilding could begin? After losing a law suit brought by the Buyers you filed Chapter 7 to avoid $225,000 worth of debts and left the Buyes in a financial lurch?

    See how easy it is to avoid discussing the issue and attack some-one’s character instead? In this case, the attack is warranted (see lososossentinel.com for full details). In the case of the continued belittling and defaming of Lisa Shicker, not waranted.

    Lisa Shicker made mistakes as a Director because she foolishly trusted Gail McPherson. But Lisa Shicker is not a liar like the LeGros “Hug-A-Turd” gang who have been deceiving, defrauding and terrorizing Los Osos since 1997.

    The complaint against Ogren and Buel is legitimate. Unfortunately, it is being made to a deaf ear in the county of corruption. You know about corruption, Richard. You were recalled in disgrace for your participation in it.

    Unless and until you can address the issues, the evidence, then you and the rest should refrain from making any further embarrassing statements. We are all bored with your “terminal” side.

    Perlman: You need to read The Sentinel before making any further “terminal” comments regarding any part of the fraudulant Los Osos sewer scam.

    Never mind. We’re sure you already have. Doesn’t it embarrass you to continue to publicly display the real you?

    FOR TRUTH BACKED BY EVIDENCE AND FACTS, READ THE SENTINEL THEN JOIN YOUR NEIGHBORS IN ENDING THE TERRORISTS SCHEME, BRINGING THE TERRORISTS TO THE BAR OF JUSTICE AND PRESERVING YOUR FREEDOM.

    R.I.C.O. CIVIL ACTION IS THE ONLY ACTION GUARANTEED TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THAT.THOSE ARE FACTS, GENTLEMEN. READ THE SENTINEL: THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS.

  • http://LosOsosSentinel PUBLISHER

    “Ignoranc is curable: Stupidity, terminal.”

    It’s beyond boring reading paper-tiger defenses and off-the-subject comments from the usual Hug-A-Turd gang whenever they attempt to defend a fraudulant position or protect one of their own.

    LeGros is a real pip: defrauding anyone lately, Richard? I’m referring to your fraudulant Paso Robles Real Estate deal when you deliberately did not inform the Buyers of the water main and street improvemnts that would be required before any buiilding could begin? After losing a law suit brought by the Buyers you filed Chapter 7 to avoid $225,000 worth of debts and left the Buyes in a financial lurch?

    See how easy it is to avoid discussing the issue and attack some-one’s character instead? In this case, the attack is warranted (see lososossentinel.com for full details). In the case of the continued belittling and defaming of Lisa Shicker, not waranted.

    Lisa Shicker made mistakes as a Director because she foolishly trusted Gail McPherson. But Lisa Shicker is not a liar like the LeGros “Hug-A-Turd” gang who have been deceiving, defrauding and terrorizing Los Osos since 1997.

    The complaint against Ogren and Buel is legitimate. Unfortunately, it is being made to a deaf ear in the county of corruption. You know about corruption, Richard. You were recalled in disgrace for your participation in it.

    Unless and until you can address the issues, the evidence, then you and the rest should refrain from making any further embarrassing statements. We are all bored with your “terminal” side.

    Perlman: You need to read The Sentinel before making any further “terminal” comments regarding any part of the fraudulant Los Osos sewer scam.

    Never mind. We’re sure you already have. Doesn’t it embarrass you to continue to publicly display the real you?

    FOR TRUTH BACKED BY EVIDENCE AND FACTS, READ THE SENTINEL THEN JOIN YOUR NEIGHBORS IN ENDING THE TERRORISTS SCHEME, BRINGING THE TERRORISTS TO THE BAR OF JUSTICE AND PRESERVING YOUR FREEDOM.

    R.I.C.O. CIVIL ACTION IS THE ONLY ACTION GUARANTEED TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THAT.THOSE ARE FACTS, GENTLEMEN. READ THE SENTINEL: THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS.