Comments on: Los Osos Animosity

By: David Duggan

David Duggan — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:47:26 +0000

Anonymous bloggers? I really thought these were their real names. Maybe I should have a real smart and witty blogger name. Dang Dung Do Do, Piss Splash or Mellow Yellow. Gee this blog is old.

By: David Duggan

David Duggan — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:47:00 +0000

Anonymous bloggers? I really thought these were their real names. Maybe I should have a real smart and witty blogger name. Dang Dung Do Do, Piss Splash or Mellow Yellow. Gee this blog is old.

By: Watershed Mark

Watershed Mark — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:38:00 +0000

Don’t forget the storm sewer that Mark H has been working on for soe time now. It may come before a
drinking water pipe project.

By: Watershed Mark

Watershed Mark — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:38:00 +0000

Don’t forget the storm sewer that Mark H has been working on for soe time now. It may come before a drinking water pipe project.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:20:00 +0000

Paavo’s plan has been MWH gravity out of town since day one. The TAC was selected by Public Works to get Paavo's desired outcome. The survey was designed to get Paavo's desired outcome. Public information released by the county is designed to get Paavo's desired outcome.

The information now coming to the forefront also conflict with Paavo's desired outcome. All groups asking for an affordable and/or sustainable project conflict with Paavo's desired outcome.

The county response is to quash public comment and to hurry up the project. Get those pipes in the ground ASAP. There is no chance for a sustainable project while Paavo is in charge. And then he can be in charge of the next big project in LO, importing water. I wonder how much that is going to cost us?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:20:00 +0000

Paavo’s plan has been MWH gravity out of town since day one. The TAC was selected by Public Works to get Paavo’s desired outcome. The survey was designed to get Paavo’s desired outcome. Public information released by the county is designed to get Paavo’s desired outcome. The information now coming to the forefront also conflict with Paavo’s desired outcome. All groups asking for an affordable and/or sustainable project conflict with Paavo’s desired outcome.The county response is to quash public comment and to hurry up the project. Get those pipes in the ground ASAP. There is no chance for a sustainable project while Paavo is in charge. And then he can be in charge of the next big project in LO, importing water. I wonder how much that is going to cost us?

By: Alon Perlman

Alon Perlman — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:12:00 +0000

Hi real time Aaron,
While I do critisize, in your case it is out of respect for the even finer product that you may produce in the future.
This webspace is a microcosem of Los Osos which in turn is a microcosm of America.

The number of surveys returned to the county is adequate for statistical interpretation. I don't make the rules. Question bias? you bet.

In fact, I, on several occations, private and public, suggested (respectfuly) to the county that they avoid the appearence of impropriety and unintentional bias and suggested that the county vet the survey via the TAC.

Your Readership, 222 hits, or otherwise, cannot be seen as representative of a "representative" group.
Sample size mattersVenting on the web even on the newspaper is not equivalent to communicating with the goverment as an individual, or as a "representative" of a specific group, or on "behalf" of "the public".

By: Alon Perlman

Alon Perlman — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:12:00 +0000

Hi real time Aaron,While I do critisize, in your case it is out of respect for the even finer product that you may produce in the future.This webspace is a microcosem of Los Osos which in turn is a microcosm of America.The number of surveys returned to the county is adequate for statistical interpretation. I don’t make the rules. Question bias? you bet.In fact, I, on several occations, private and public, suggested (respectfuly) to the county that they avoid the appearence of impropriety and unintentional bias and suggested that the county vet the survey via the TAC.Your Readership, 222 hits, or otherwise, cannot be seen as representative of a “representative” group. Sample size mattersVenting on the web even on the newspaper is not equivalent to communicating with the goverment as an individual, or as a “representative” of a specific group, or on “behalf” of “the public”.

By: Alon Perlman

Alon Perlman — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:16:00 +0000

To anonymous, your postings on this blog indicate that you are involved in the sewer follies, that you know most of the issues, that you are of the move the sewer group. More power to ya. I don't know who you are but I know who you are not. you probably have spoken publicly.
Posting under Anonymous said... is problematic in that there could be multiple people posting on a specific Blog post. It is simply too confusing, since there is no way to be sure that anon at 11:00 am is the same person anon at 5:00 pm. It creates a problem of continuity and context.
I recomend that you post under an Anonymous Identity(pseudonim, assumed identity,Pen-name).
People have posted under other people's identities and there was a particularly nasty example a few months ago (at Calhoun's). As soon as I stopped laughing I posted to ann suggesting she delete those entries and she did though she did not need the prompting. In the past one of the "less popular" leaders had the habit of posting anon or under a anon name as a "member of public who just happened to pass through and thought that the comments of so and so were reasonable". Lying frequently does not compete with lying well.
I think you are a genuine anon so I will respond to another of your comments- Surfriders. I have a high personal reguard for Noah Smeckler and Jeff Pineak. Surfrider did however, assoaciate with an Al Barrow event.
Guilt by assoaciation, and also guilt by dissassociation are risks that organizations have to consider if they wish to be credible. as for "Professional", the individuals you mention have for the most part, not been discourtious. however, as members of public "professional" may not be the best descriptor, more suitable to Camron, or Dana Ripley who are in the Sewer Engineer category. And that is the kicker- "Professional" may mean something else to people who have operated within a professional Career. I have no suggestions, and your message is understandable as is. I bring this up to illistrate that the history and context of an annon comment poster is hidden.
Anyway, I personally would like to see more comments by you, but please invest your time in a monniker.

By: Alon Perlman

Alon Perlman — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:16:00 +0000

To anonymous, your postings on this blog indicate that you are involved in the sewer follies, that you know most of the issues, that you are of the move the sewer group. More power to ya. I don't know who you are but I know who you are not. you probably have spoken publicly.Posting under Anonymous said... is problematic in that there could be multiple people posting on a specific Blog post. It is simply too confusing, since there is no way to be sure that anon at 11:00 am is the same person anon at 5:00 pm. It creates a problem of continuity and context.I recomend that you post under an Anonymous Identity(pseudonim, assumed identity,Pen-name).People have posted under other people's identities and there was a particularly nasty example a few months ago (at Calhoun's). As soon as I stopped laughing I posted to ann suggesting she delete those entries and she did though she did not need the prompting. In the past one of the "less popular" leaders had the habit of posting anon or under a anon name as a "member of public who just happened to pass through and thought that the comments of so and so were reasonable". Lying frequently does not compete with lying well.I think you are a genuine anon so I will respond to another of your comments- Surfriders. I have a high personal reguard for Noah Smeckler and Jeff Pineak. Surfrider did however, assoaciate with an Al Barrow event.Guilt by assoaciation, and also guilt by dissassociation are risks that organizations have to consider if they wish to be credible. as for "Professional", the individuals you mention have for the most part, not been discourtious. however, as members of public "professional" may not be the best descriptor, more suitable to Camron, or Dana Ripley who are in the Sewer Engineer category. And that is the kicker- "Professional" may mean something else to people who have operated within a professional Career. I have no suggestions, and your message is understandable as is. I bring this up to illistrate that the history and context of an annon comment poster is hidden.Anyway, I personally would like to see more comments by you, but please invest your time in a monniker.