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		<title>By: Sewertoons</title>
		<link>http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2009/04/03/friday-round-up-back-to-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>Sewertoons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Announcement! I don&#039;t plan on running for the CSD again! So I am simply speaking as a citizen who has paid a LOT of attention to the issues. WYSWG.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I spoke to real people on the Tri-W issue. Cost is paramount. If it doesn&#039;t cost out, fine. But I really think it is a no-go anyway because of politics. I am happy with Tri-W or Tonini, although I really like the absolute un-expandability of Tri-W, and the water doesn&#039;t leave the basin. It really would put the pressure on the purveyors to come up with uses for the water that doesn&#039;t go to Broderson. We could also buy a cheaper hunk of land out of town for tertiary spray fields or buy nothing and sell the tertiary water to the farmers or do an ag-exchange deal. Purveyors pay - costs spread to all water users.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The point I made about 1983 is that it just keeps getting more expensive. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;At the last Bruce Gibson office hours he did not appear to be a skeleton - and you were at the one before - and he simply couldn&#039;t have lost that much weight - and if you think he is politically dead, I think you are dead wrong!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maria is doing a GREAT job and I can&#039;t believe you are actually saying that. Her influence has helped bring up the tone of the CSD meetings and saved money on the new - cheaper - room arrangement. Last meeting I actually came away feeling good - there was a lot of laughter throughout the meeting on little silly things - it was really quite a turnaround. I didn&#039;t need a Martini when I got home even! We actually have relevant community issues to talk about in the Water Ops meeting, thanks to Maria!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I absolutely agree with both you and Aaron on Lisa. She (and Julie) both did an incredible amount of harm.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well, we disagree on most CSD things, but we still keep the tone civil - and interesting (I think)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Announcement! I don&#8217;t plan on running for the CSD again! So I am simply speaking as a citizen who has paid a LOT of attention to the issues. WYSWG.</p>
<p>I spoke to real people on the Tri-W issue. Cost is paramount. If it doesn&#8217;t cost out, fine. But I really think it is a no-go anyway because of politics. I am happy with Tri-W or Tonini, although I really like the absolute un-expandability of Tri-W, and the water doesn&#8217;t leave the basin. It really would put the pressure on the purveyors to come up with uses for the water that doesn&#8217;t go to Broderson. We could also buy a cheaper hunk of land out of town for tertiary spray fields or buy nothing and sell the tertiary water to the farmers or do an ag-exchange deal. Purveyors pay &#8211; costs spread to all water users.</p>
<p>The point I made about 1983 is that it just keeps getting more expensive. </p>
<p>At the last Bruce Gibson office hours he did not appear to be a skeleton &#8211; and you were at the one before &#8211; and he simply couldn&#8217;t have lost that much weight &#8211; and if you think he is politically dead, I think you are dead wrong!</p>
<p>Maria is doing a GREAT job and I can&#8217;t believe you are actually saying that. Her influence has helped bring up the tone of the CSD meetings and saved money on the new &#8211; cheaper &#8211; room arrangement. Last meeting I actually came away feeling good &#8211; there was a lot of laughter throughout the meeting on little silly things &#8211; it was really quite a turnaround. I didn&#8217;t need a Martini when I got home even! We actually have relevant community issues to talk about in the Water Ops meeting, thanks to Maria!</p>
<p>I absolutely agree with both you and Aaron on Lisa. She (and Julie) both did an incredible amount of harm.</p>
<p>Well, we disagree on most CSD things, but we still keep the tone civil &#8211; and interesting (I think)!</p>
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		<title>By: Sewertoons</title>
		<link>http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2009/04/03/friday-round-up-back-to-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>Sewertoons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Announcement! I don&#039;t plan on running for the CSD again! So I am simply speaking as a citizen who has paid a LOT of attention to the issues. WYSWG.I spoke to real people on the Tri-W issue. Cost is paramount. If it doesn&#039;t cost out, fine. But I really think it is a no-go anyway because of politics. I am happy with Tri-W or Tonini, although I really like the absolute un-expandability of Tri-W, and the water doesn&#039;t leave the basin. It really would put the pressure on the purveyors to come up with uses for the water that doesn&#039;t go to Broderson. We could also buy a cheaper hunk of land out of town for tertiary spray fields or buy nothing and sell the tertiary water to the farmers or do an ag-exchange deal. Purveyors pay - costs spread to all water users.The point I made about 1983 is that it just keeps getting more expensive. At the last Bruce Gibson office hours he did not appear to be a skeleton - and you were at the one before - and he simply couldn&#039;t have lost that much weight - and if you think he is politically dead, I think you are dead wrong!Maria is doing a GREAT job and I can&#039;t believe you are actually saying that. Her influence has helped bring up the tone of the CSD meetings and saved money on the new - cheaper - room arrangement. Last meeting I actually came away feeling good - there was a lot of laughter throughout the meeting on little silly things - it was really quite a turnaround. I didn&#039;t need a Martini when I got home even! We actually have relevant community issues to talk about in the Water Ops meeting, thanks to Maria!I absolutely agree with both you and Aaron on Lisa. She (and Julie) both did an incredible amount of harm.Well, we disagree on most CSD things, but we still keep the tone civil - and interesting (I think)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Announcement! I don&#8217;t plan on running for the CSD again! So I am simply speaking as a citizen who has paid a LOT of attention to the issues. WYSWG.I spoke to real people on the Tri-W issue. Cost is paramount. If it doesn&#8217;t cost out, fine. But I really think it is a no-go anyway because of politics. I am happy with Tri-W or Tonini, although I really like the absolute un-expandability of Tri-W, and the water doesn&#8217;t leave the basin. It really would put the pressure on the purveyors to come up with uses for the water that doesn&#8217;t go to Broderson. We could also buy a cheaper hunk of land out of town for tertiary spray fields or buy nothing and sell the tertiary water to the farmers or do an ag-exchange deal. Purveyors pay &#8211; costs spread to all water users.The point I made about 1983 is that it just keeps getting more expensive. At the last Bruce Gibson office hours he did not appear to be a skeleton &#8211; and you were at the one before &#8211; and he simply couldn&#8217;t have lost that much weight &#8211; and if you think he is politically dead, I think you are dead wrong!Maria is doing a GREAT job and I can&#8217;t believe you are actually saying that. Her influence has helped bring up the tone of the CSD meetings and saved money on the new &#8211; cheaper &#8211; room arrangement. Last meeting I actually came away feeling good &#8211; there was a lot of laughter throughout the meeting on little silly things &#8211; it was really quite a turnaround. I didn&#8217;t need a Martini when I got home even! We actually have relevant community issues to talk about in the Water Ops meeting, thanks to Maria!I absolutely agree with both you and Aaron on Lisa. She (and Julie) both did an incredible amount of harm.Well, we disagree on most CSD things, but we still keep the tone civil &#8211; and interesting (I think)!</p>
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		<title>By: Sewertoons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sewertoons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon says:&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Why don&#039;t you ask Paavo what happened to the write-in votes for vacuum. Were they counted as gravity? They certainly were not mentioned in the results.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Public Works - Office hours are Monday to Friday 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM&lt;br/&gt;General information phone number is (805) 781-5252&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am not trying to not do some calling, but don&#039;t you call the County and report back here? It&#039;s what I would have to do and I am a well-known fan of gravity, so the blog readers might not trust my answer and you are neutral! I&#039;d be curious on that answer, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon says:<br />&#8220;Why don&#8217;t you ask Paavo what happened to the write-in votes for vacuum. Were they counted as gravity? They certainly were not mentioned in the results.&#8221;</p>
<p>Public Works &#8211; Office hours are Monday to Friday 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM<br />General information phone number is (805) 781-5252</p>
<p>I am not trying to not do some calling, but don&#8217;t you call the County and report back here? It&#8217;s what I would have to do and I am a well-known fan of gravity, so the blog readers might not trust my answer and you are neutral! I&#8217;d be curious on that answer, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Sewertoons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sewertoons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon says:&quot;Why don&#039;t you ask Paavo what happened to the write-in votes for vacuum. Were they counted as gravity? They certainly were not mentioned in the results.&quot;Public Works - Office hours are Monday to Friday 8:00 AM to 5:00 PMGeneral information phone number is (805) 781-5252I am not trying to not do some calling, but don&#039;t you call the County and report back here? It&#039;s what I would have to do and I am a well-known fan of gravity, so the blog readers might not trust my answer and you are neutral! I&#039;d be curious on that answer, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon says:&#8221;Why don&#8217;t you ask Paavo what happened to the write-in votes for vacuum. Were they counted as gravity? They certainly were not mentioned in the results.&#8221;Public Works &#8211; Office hours are Monday to Friday 8:00 AM to 5:00 PMGeneral information phone number is (805) 781-5252I am not trying to not do some calling, but don&#8217;t you call the County and report back here? It&#8217;s what I would have to do and I am a well-known fan of gravity, so the blog readers might not trust my answer and you are neutral! I&#8217;d be curious on that answer, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toons,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why are you stuck in 1983? What does that prove? That things were cheaper back then?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I was a kid, hot dogs cost a quarter? So?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;People I know that were adamant about out of town now are fine with Tri-W if it is cheaper and can be permitted again.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What bull! Such a delusional statement tugs at the remaining threads of your tattered credibility.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You don&#039;t seem to know what year you&#039;re in, who you know, or where you are. You&#039;ve been holding Gibson&#039;s cold hand so long you don&#039;t realize you&#039;re holding on to a skeleton.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You need to get a grip on reality before you announce you are running for the CSD again, which you obviously are. Your ignorance will set a boil under the community you don&#039;t even recognize is there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Taking notes doesn&#039;t make you any more of any expert or any more knowledgeable than, say, Maria, who has no business being on the CSD any more than you do. Los Osos deserves so much better, more intelligent leadership but keeps suffering with less and less, year after year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have to agree with Aaron about Lisa. She lives in a constant state of denial over the damage she did and in a perpetual world of fantasy over the good she imagined she did. Angels do no harm. Lisa failed to lead and gave us Gail. Angels don&#039;t bring devils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toons,</p>
<p>Why are you stuck in 1983? What does that prove? That things were cheaper back then?</p>
<p>When I was a kid, hot dogs cost a quarter? So?</p>
<p><i>&#8220;People I know that were adamant about out of town now are fine with Tri-W if it is cheaper and can be permitted again.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>What bull! Such a delusional statement tugs at the remaining threads of your tattered credibility.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t seem to know what year you&#8217;re in, who you know, or where you are. You&#8217;ve been holding Gibson&#8217;s cold hand so long you don&#8217;t realize you&#8217;re holding on to a skeleton.</p>
<p>You need to get a grip on reality before you announce you are running for the CSD again, which you obviously are. Your ignorance will set a boil under the community you don&#8217;t even recognize is there.</p>
<p>Taking notes doesn&#8217;t make you any more of any expert or any more knowledgeable than, say, Maria, who has no business being on the CSD any more than you do. Los Osos deserves so much better, more intelligent leadership but keeps suffering with less and less, year after year.</p>
<p>I have to agree with Aaron about Lisa. She lives in a constant state of denial over the damage she did and in a perpetual world of fantasy over the good she imagined she did. Angels do no harm. Lisa failed to lead and gave us Gail. Angels don&#8217;t bring devils.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toons,Why are you stuck in 1983? What does that prove? That things were cheaper back then?When I was a kid, hot dogs cost a quarter? So?&lt;i&gt;&quot;People I know that were adamant about out of town now are fine with Tri-W if it is cheaper and can be permitted again.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;What bull! Such a delusional statement tugs at the remaining threads of your tattered credibility.You don&#039;t seem to know what year you&#039;re in, who you know, or where you are. You&#039;ve been holding Gibson&#039;s cold hand so long you don&#039;t realize you&#039;re holding on to a skeleton.You need to get a grip on reality before you announce you are running for the CSD again, which you obviously are. Your ignorance will set a boil under the community you don&#039;t even recognize is there.Taking notes doesn&#039;t make you any more of any expert or any more knowledgeable than, say, Maria, who has no business being on the CSD any more than you do. Los Osos deserves so much better, more intelligent leadership but keeps suffering with less and less, year after year.I have to agree with Aaron about Lisa. She lives in a constant state of denial over the damage she did and in a perpetual world of fantasy over the good she imagined she did. Angels do no harm. Lisa failed to lead and gave us Gail. Angels don&#039;t bring devils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toons,Why are you stuck in 1983? What does that prove? That things were cheaper back then?When I was a kid, hot dogs cost a quarter? So?<i>&#8220;People I know that were adamant about out of town now are fine with Tri-W if it is cheaper and can be permitted again.&#8221; </i>What bull! Such a delusional statement tugs at the remaining threads of your tattered credibility.You don&#8217;t seem to know what year you&#8217;re in, who you know, or where you are. You&#8217;ve been holding Gibson&#8217;s cold hand so long you don&#8217;t realize you&#8217;re holding on to a skeleton.You need to get a grip on reality before you announce you are running for the CSD again, which you obviously are. Your ignorance will set a boil under the community you don&#8217;t even recognize is there.Taking notes doesn&#8217;t make you any more of any expert or any more knowledgeable than, say, Maria, who has no business being on the CSD any more than you do. Los Osos deserves so much better, more intelligent leadership but keeps suffering with less and less, year after year.I have to agree with Aaron about Lisa. She lives in a constant state of denial over the damage she did and in a perpetual world of fantasy over the good she imagined she did. Angels do no harm. Lisa failed to lead and gave us Gail. Angels don&#8217;t bring devils.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard LeGros</title>
		<link>http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2009/04/03/friday-round-up-back-to-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard LeGros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alon,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You Posted: &quot;As for Lisa,? You are wasting your time Aaron. She is innocent of an understanding of what has been wrought and why. Which is why she will always be seen by a large minority as an angel. I would rather discorse with a real CSD Director.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hmmmm...that is a very nice way of saying that Lisa does not understand what she has done. Are you suggesting that her &#039;innocence&#039; is a type of incompetence that somehow releases her of her responsibility for her behavior and actions as an elected governmental official? Do not forget that she willing took on those responsibilities upon taking the Oath of Office. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I ask this because you allude that you find talking to Lisa not akin to talking to a &quot;real CSD Director&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alon,</p>
<p>You Posted: &#8220;As for Lisa,? You are wasting your time Aaron. She is innocent of an understanding of what has been wrought and why. Which is why she will always be seen by a large minority as an angel. I would rather discorse with a real CSD Director.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;that is a very nice way of saying that Lisa does not understand what she has done. Are you suggesting that her &#8216;innocence&#8217; is a type of incompetence that somehow releases her of her responsibility for her behavior and actions as an elected governmental official? Do not forget that she willing took on those responsibilities upon taking the Oath of Office. </p>
<p>I ask this because you allude that you find talking to Lisa not akin to talking to a &#8220;real CSD Director&#8221;.</p>
<p>-R</p>
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		<title>By: Richard LeGros</title>
		<link>http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2009/04/03/friday-round-up-back-to-2005/comment-page-1/#comment-1436</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard LeGros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alon,You Posted: &quot;As for Lisa,? You are wasting your time Aaron. She is innocent of an understanding of what has been wrought and why. Which is why she will always be seen by a large minority as an angel. I would rather discorse with a real CSD Director.&quot;Hmmmm...that is a very nice way of saying that Lisa does not understand what she has done. Are you suggesting that her &#039;innocence&#039; is a type of incompetence that somehow releases her of her responsibility for her behavior and actions as an elected governmental official? Do not forget that she willing took on those responsibilities upon taking the Oath of Office. I ask this because you allude that you find talking to Lisa not akin to talking to a &quot;real CSD Director&quot;.-R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alon,You Posted: &#8220;As for Lisa,? You are wasting your time Aaron. She is innocent of an understanding of what has been wrought and why. Which is why she will always be seen by a large minority as an angel. I would rather discorse with a real CSD Director.&#8221;Hmmmm&#8230;that is a very nice way of saying that Lisa does not understand what she has done. Are you suggesting that her &#8216;innocence&#8217; is a type of incompetence that somehow releases her of her responsibility for her behavior and actions as an elected governmental official? Do not forget that she willing took on those responsibilities upon taking the Oath of Office. I ask this because you allude that you find talking to Lisa not akin to talking to a &#8220;real CSD Director&#8221;.-R</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sewertoons&lt;br/&gt;Why don&#039;t you ask Paavo what happened to the write-in votes for vacuum.  Were they counted as gravity?  They certainly were not mentioned in the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sewertoons<br />Why don&#8217;t you ask Paavo what happened to the write-in votes for vacuum.  Were they counted as gravity?  They certainly were not mentioned in the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SewertoonsWhy don&#039;t you ask Paavo what happened to the write-in votes for vacuum.  Were they counted as gravity?  They certainly were not mentioned in the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SewertoonsWhy don&#8217;t you ask Paavo what happened to the write-in votes for vacuum.  Were they counted as gravity?  They certainly were not mentioned in the results.</p>
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